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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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point is , INJEN at this time is only servicing the smaller part of the Lancer 08 community.

The only logic I can think of is that maybe they wanted to do a small scale release and allow additional time to construct the FED version. The only snag that I can see coming up is if the 2.4 GTS 09 doesnt fit their exhaust as well. Then they will have to tell everyone PZEV 2.0L only. If that does happen and they didnt R&D enough, then that might be a problem...

If this is what INJEN is offering for the lancer, then I am pretty sure AEM will win this battle with their versions
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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now im just wondering how it will work with the pzev header RRM is making. i have a feeling by putting them both together we will loose power from lack of backpressure in the exhaust.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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now im just wondering how it will work with the pzev header RRM is making. i have a feeling by putting them both together we will loose power from lack of backpressure in the exhaust.
true.

on mitsubishi-forums.com in the 08 lancers section theres a guy that has just about every performance mod out for the lancer..and dynod it..dont know if this is true but from what he said he lost 8hp with all the mods..could be a cause of way to much backpressure

which is another reason i dont wanna run duals when i get my evo x rear bumper
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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So you are mad at Injen for not being CARB approved. Oh well. They are not going to sink money into one product for a small segment to get it approved. Futhermore, if you hate your car just because on part manufactuer does not make what you want, get rid of your car.

Also, have your researched into if RRM turbo kit will be CARB approved?
No, I am not mad at INJEN for their exhaust not being CARB approved. I said I was mad at them for at least not designing a second fitment product for FED spec 08's. CARB approval is the least of my worries.

Anyways, I emailed speedcorps, and they responded back stating that an extra pipe running from the cat to the headers would have to be welded on. It is something an auto mechanics shop can do for very cheap. Although, the point is that I dont feel I should have to do it (the exhaust IS 900 bucks LOL), and, secondly, I am worried about not getting the expected gains b/c of a poorly designed pipe for "CHEAP".
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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wait..for 900 bucks what kind of gains are injen talking off the top of the head?
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LuDa
true.

on mitsubishi-forums.com in the 08 lancers section theres a guy that has just about every performance mod out for the lancer..and dynod it..dont know if this is true but from what he said he lost 8hp with all the mods..could be a cause of way to much backpressure

which is another reason i dont wanna run duals when i get my evo x rear bumper
i wouldnt be worried about loosing too much back pressure, back pressure is needed. Hense why the stock muffler provides a fair amount.
A reverse Y configuration will loose TQ but HP should remain the same if he doesnt go to big in piping. Since I dont know who you are talking about, I can only speculate. losing 8hp not much, but with the wrong configuation, TQ is more precious thing to lose.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurt
So you are mad at Injen for not being CARB approved. Oh well. They are not going to sink money into one product for a small segment to get it approved. Futhermore, if you hate your car just because on part manufactuer does not make what you want, get rid of your car.

Also, have your researched into if RRM turbo kit will be CARB approved?
ermmm... no.... the Injen SES exhaust WILL be C.A.R.B. certified. He's upset that the exhuast will be specifically designed for the PZEV cars, and as a result it will not be a direct bolt-on upgrade for Federal Spec cars.

Frankly, Injen is doing it right. They design the exhaust to fit PZEV cars and remain legal for them to use, and the Fed cars can easily manipulate the the exhaust to meet their needs.

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How the heck does it not fit Fed spec? I'd think we could just plug the extra bung and call it a day... The parts are all the same size/shape, aren't they?
There might be a little more to it than that. However, like you, I do not see how it won't "fit" a Fed Spec car. At most, a Fed car might have to remove something from the exhaust and replace the removed component with a section of pipe, or add that second resonator I keep hearing/reading about. That should be a non-issue for any competent muffler shop.

It says specifically on the Speedcorps site that the exhaust kit will work with Fed SPec cars, BUT it needs to be modified. Which could mean just plugging that extra bung, or it could mean removing a component. Either way, it's nothing to get worked up over IMO. I mean, any modifications you MIGHT have to do to make the exhaust meet Fed Spec car needs will be FAR less involved than what Evo_Soul is doing to make his dual-exhaust set up...
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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I mean, any modifications you MIGHT have to do to make the exhaust meet Fed Spec car needs will be FAR less involved than what Evo_Soul is doing to make his dual-exhaust set up...
my project is a pain in the *** but fine, even for someone to follow my steps, you will still need a competent exhaust shop to do it.

The reason why you go with INJEN or anyone of the big names is so that you dont have to pay a dime more to get it installed. if you have to pay a shop to make modifications, takes away from the idea of

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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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to make the exhaust fit, you just gotta weld an extra foot of piping on.
That info is directly from Injen, and it shouldn't be expensive to do
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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to make the exhaust fit, you just gotta weld an extra foot of piping on.
That info is directly from Injen, and it shouldn't be expensive to do
That is pathetic. This isn't a little "fly by night" company, it's Injen. They should make a version for both. It's not that freaking hard for them to do!
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
That is pathetic. This isn't a little "fly by night" company, it's Injen. They should make a version for both. It's not that freaking hard for them to do!
I am 100% with you there. It is absolutely pathetic that they would do this.
and i really can't figure out why they would, unless someone made a mistake and didn't realize that the non-cali lancers are different.
However the guy who was the test vehicle posted on another forum that he told them about this being stupid, so i guess Injen are just dumb
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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I am 100% with you there. It is absolutely pathetic that they would do this.
and i really can't figure out why they would, unless someone made a mistake and didn't realize that the non-cali lancers are different.
However the guy who was the test vehicle posted on another forum that he told them about this being stupid, so i guess Injen are just dumb
for the record I contacted Injen before they started their project to offer help and some suggestions, lol

their response was, "we are already thru the R&D phase, but thanks for the offer."

offer still stands....
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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hmmmmm i might just get the magnaflow one when it comes out, or who knows may be i will be able to mod the injen one, in anyway i am mad at injen
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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i am taking that this is the exact picture of the cali spec exhaust...can someone mark where will we have to weld that pipe on and what will have to be deleated.

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