I was thinking about getting a swap of the 4b11t engine.
Any ideas what's needed ? Or about how much it would cost.?

Because when I look at rrm turbo, is seems promising, but since I want more power then that, I'm pretty sure a lot of internal will need to be changed to get to next step, and at that point, i'm pretty sure it's gonna be way more expensive.

I mean, I know most ppl will just say : go buy an evo.
But here in canada it's pretty pricey.
I mean, I got my Gts fully loaded for about 32k. The cheapest Evo I could get without any options is 52k (and I aren't talking about insurance rape).

So I tought to myself maybe try to do compromise if I want to get something slightly over 320bhp.
So at maybe 5000$ for the engine, 2000$ in other parts. And maybe another 3k for the install. It looks like it's still cheaper then the Evo. Ok it's not Awd and computerisez AYC and everthing but for half the price.
I'm gonna need to use my tranny, as I know it should keep up.
But what about the Ecu ? Will he be able to see he's not awd or something.
Do I miss something.

What do you guys thinks about it ?

 

i dunno i dont really see a evo x engine being 5000$ prolly more, if it is, that would be the route i would take as i am in canada myself :P

 

It's possible, but its going to be real hard to do. Everyone wants to do an engine swap, but almost no one will. It won't work as well as an evo, but it should also cost less than the Evo. Have you looked into the ralliart? You might want to upgraded your transmission, get an LSD, and a lot of computer work will need to be done. To fit the engine your going to need to relocate alot of the things in the engine to the trunk (like battery, fluids, ect.) I'm not sure how your going to get past alot of the electronic work, thats going to be the hardest part.

 

I think the ECU will destroy this project. I don't think the Lancer ECU could handle the Evo motor. And I don't think the Evo ECU could run the Lancer electronics. So you'd probably need to either be a computer whiz or find someone who is... So much of these cars are run by computers now, I question if swaps are truly possible anymore...

 

The platform is the same essentially though right? Not like the differences between the CT9A and the lancer platform?

 

Essentially, yes. Chassis are very close and motor is same basic idea.

What I worry about is this - if you try to keep the stock ECU, you'd probably have to try something like a Works reflash. The stock tune most likely won't even run the Evo motor. If you try to use the Evo ECU, it might not even work because there are so many sensors and functions that get no signal, the car might just go straight to LIMP mode.

 

Hummm that's really bad news then

 

would be cheaper to rebuild the engine then to try to intergrate an EVO X 4B11T. Your better off getting 4B11T salvage and intergrating that into your 4B11. an evo X engine is gonna be like 10000 brand new for sure.

 

How many more sensors does the 4B11T have than the 4B11 (in the engine itself)? I was under the impression that the were just about the same except the 4B11T has different Pistons, cams, valves, head, head gasket, exhaust mani, ect. and is a semi open deck (or semi closed, however you want to look at it). Wouldn't both engines require the same amount of sensors, except the evo has sensors on turbo parts? If there are only 1 or 2 extra sensors on the 4B11T, couldn't you just put a resistor on them to trick the ecu, or disable them completely with a reflash?

 

So does this mean that the Ralliart cars are not going to be for sale then?

I remember way back when people used to try and turbo their 1G Eclipse GS that were non-turbo instead of just buying a 1G Eclipse GS that was turbo. When it was all said and done, every one of them that I ever talked with ended up regretting it because of the cost / labor involved, especially since what they were looking for could be bought right off of a car lot.

 

Swapping will just open up a can of worms: It's not just an engine that makes a car. You can't double the HP you're putting down and expect miracles. There's still the suspension, brakes, exhaust, etc. to think about.

Ultimately it's your check book, but that check may be more well suited getting put towards a down payment on a car that has what you want in the first place.

 

Yeah I know that not only Hp is the key to everything.
But I LIKE acceleration, not highspeed, not cornering like an f1, not drifting ...but Accelerating yes !
My last car had a lot of power, the suspension was confortable set , so handling was bad, but I had power, and that's what I wanted.
So now my Gts, even if it's not a race car, I'm pretty confident that it would handle much more better the power increase then my old 400hp volvo ?
(anyway like I said I know that 300-340 will probably be enough on this one)

And like I said in my first post, at the extreme price of the car I would like, I think I will be able to get something that will satisfy me for half the price of it. And get that downpaiment on a house instead. But it's not about my life here, it's about swap