Super Hot Engine bay...what to do?
its fine. when you get moving the heat will clear out . your engine should be running at the same temp as before b/c your thermostat is designed to opoen at a certain temp. a vented hood wont change the temp under the hood that much. maybe about 10% cooler.
Dont take out your thermostat is there for a reason. if you take it out your engine wont heat up fast enough causing excessive fuel consumption and wear. (engines run richer when cold and its harder on it to run below operating temp.) Also the water will be moving too fast through your rad to cool properly you actually might run hotter with the thermostat out.
your cooling system is designed to drop the temp of your coolant i think 10 degrees as it passes through the rad. if the coolant moves too fast it will only drop say 5 degrees in passing through the rad. = overheat
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your cooling system is designed to drop the temp of your coolant i think 10 degrees as it passes through the rad. if the coolant moves too fast it will only drop say 5 degrees in passing through the rad. = overheat
Exactly, if you remove your thermostat the antifreeze will be moving to quickly to cool properly and running straight antifreeze will not absorb heat either. The factory does things for a reason(some good, some bad) but temp is one of the things they do right because overheating will warp heads, kill head gaskets, and burn up motors. They have warrenties to fufill and that will cost way to much. Try redline waterwetter or royal purple.
You say that it's hot in the garage after you pull in. Could you either keep the door open for a few minutes after the car's stopped, or just don't go in right away?
Instead of a turbo timer, you'll have a grarage door timer 
The turbo vent from RRM might be an option if you ever decide to modify your hood.
Instead of a turbo timer, you'll have a grarage door timer 
The turbo vent from RRM might be an option if you ever decide to modify your hood.
Sounds like you ran into the same issues i have... coolant temp in no way will show you how hot your exhaust temps are getting... this is what an egt is for. Rather than spend the cash on this though do two things... 1) go and get some water wetter from local auto store... this will help drop engine temps by about 20 degrees or more. 2) put in the hood vent!!
I was against the vent to as i didn't want the hood cut but man what a difference. I can actually see the heat just belowing out of it and on the road not only did the car feel more responsive and peppy but my mpg increased slights.
Big thing to remember is that hot exhaust temps can be a sign of to hot combustion temps... while your not detonating you are seriously stressing cylinder walls and pistons to the point of melting/weakening them. EGT's are pricey but they show you whats going on and are invaluable for tuning. Since i've done the work and i know i'll tell you getting the vent and putting in water wetter is the cheapest/easiest/most productive way to go!
Good luck man... treat her right or she may get damaged on you!!
I was against the vent to as i didn't want the hood cut but man what a difference. I can actually see the heat just belowing out of it and on the road not only did the car feel more responsive and peppy but my mpg increased slights.
Big thing to remember is that hot exhaust temps can be a sign of to hot combustion temps... while your not detonating you are seriously stressing cylinder walls and pistons to the point of melting/weakening them. EGT's are pricey but they show you whats going on and are invaluable for tuning. Since i've done the work and i know i'll tell you getting the vent and putting in water wetter is the cheapest/easiest/most productive way to go!
Good luck man... treat her right or she may get damaged on you!!
You can always thermal coat the header, downpipe and intake manifold. That'll really take some heat off of the car. 30-35% I believe. I forgot the name of the company. I have it at my house. They're located in NY. I will check and post tommorow.
My local supplier for header parts has been building headers by hand for 41 years and they have told me that unless it is a full blown race car, all coatings and wraps are going to do is destroy your header (as in break down the steel) in a daily driver application. The heat accumulates because of stop and go, low speeds lack of air flow ect and has nowhere to go if its coated or wrapped and then it goes to work destroying the steel. Obviously by nature race cars go very fast, have relatively open engine bays, or only do 1/4 mile runs. He was really annoyed when I asked about that too, and said I must be reading some magazines instead of asking the people who actually work with the stuff. He said I can get away with doing the down pipe because it isn't nearly as hot as the exhaust manifold.
Originally posted by airlinevomitbag
Please explain "water wetter" I have never seen this stuff. Is that the brand name?
Please explain "water wetter" I have never seen this stuff. Is that the brand name?
Basically water wetter is a coating that mixes with your antifreeze and as it travels through your motor it coats the metal increasing its heat disapation factor greatly. When you use regular antifreeze/water the engine develops hot spots... these hotspots actually great a steam buble at their location and even thought the coolant is flowing through the system the bubble acts like a barier not allowing for heat transfer in that location. If the bubble is big enough this could cause higher temps. Water wetter coats the material in block/head to prevent this. It is about 10 bucks a bottle but it works and is what i use. As for the hood vent not really giving off much heat you should see the heat that just poors out of mine when stopped not to mention that under load it dropped EGT(exhaust gas temps) by 50 degrees in blackmantis's car and mine. If your gonna play with the big boys and run the car to limits/hard... you need to take their advice/ways into consideration... they don't pop all those vents in the hood for nothing!! Get rid of the heat before it gets rid of your engine. Good luck on this as it is serious enough to warrant attention but very contriversial in nature. ROCK does things this way.... I do things this way.... Blackmantis... etc, etc, etc... There is always a reason some are faster/more reliable than others. Look for the answers and research things from others. You'll then have some good info to base your decision on and pop the hole in the hood!


