yeah, reall good luck, even some of the tuning shops first prototypes weren't able to boost h.p. but did push up torque. Homemade is not smart idea if your serious bout the car. Rob, any chance you make improved MAS for the lancer?

 

Improve the MAS as gettin' the honeycomb more exposed? If it's that, you could swap in the 2G turbo MAS. Two good threads off the top of my head for it. Long and short of the threads though is it ain't worth it 'til you've got a bit o' work done.

Or are you simply talking about a funnel to the MAS? If that's the case, K&N makes a pretty decent one for the Stealth/3000GT that the Mirage boys use.


'ere it is. Could make a good starting point for a new filter since it's designed specifically for the Mitsu style MAS.

 

I was just wondering what dose everyone think of the rmr short ram i chose it because i live in new england and it rains alot i know 2 people who have used there cai for a straw to suck up water and destroyed there engine. the reason i went with it over any other short ram was because it uses the factory scoop from under the grill i asume this would give decent amouts of cold air no i have never seen anyone really mention what they feel about the set up

 

There is a bypass valve that can be put on the CAI, I forget who makes it. The RMR short ram is a good choice, I'm using it and I am happy with it.

 

AEM makes the bypass... they have tested it on an NSX with filter entirely submerged and no water was ingested.

 

first of all removal of the honeycomb just allows more air to be passed thru the MAS without being read. that means that your car is getting more air than it thinks. you can also cause damage to the MAS if you don't do it right. Swapping the 2G Turbo MAS. don't do it. the back of the MAS on those things are oval not round. and yea it gets fittings and such harder to get on. the 3g eclipse and the 8g galant uses round ones for the back

as for a big *** filter well, actually a big *** filter doesn't really get in more air than a normal sized filter. yea if u compared it to a small filter yes but not to a normal sized filter. the advantage to having a big *** filter is cleaning. you don't have to clean the big *** filter as often since less air is being passed thru each square inch of filter element.

to tell u the truth its kinda hard to mess up your motor with a CAI by sucking up water. first of all it takes about a cup of water to get into your combustion chamber to cause hydrolock. to top things off, not only does the intake pipe has to be filled will water but the filter has to be submerged fully and create a vaccum to suck the water from the filter, up the intake pipe, into the throttle body and accumulate 1 cup of water. also, think about where the filter is placed. how high the water has to be for the filter to be fully sumberged. thats pretty high, i dunno about u, but i won't drive in water that high.

actually i believe the main reason people mess up their cars with cai's up there is SNOW. snow will cover the filter accumulate and bam, ur car isn't getting any air anymore. uhm the AEM bypass valve could help or even just a shield for the filter so it can be protected from the snow.

 

IF you look at some of the cheap generic kits out there they have a plate to bolt filter to adapters. It seals up buy doesn't seem very good. Didn't buy RMR because the heat sheild is the adapter. Just a ring welded to the sheild. Whacked. Have not seen AEM intake or Injen. Does Ingen or AEM have an adapter that has a funnel kind of affect?

 

Maybe my first post was a wee unclear i already have rmr intake i mentoned the cai because i wanted to compare the factory air scoop bringing cold air to the filter vs the cai and weather or not any feels it has a effect as far as the ability for the cai to suck up water when u live in the area i do u get a decent nor easter and the roads get flooded those wacky newengland roads have like 3 foot dips in them u dont see at night night then swoosh then that if u live by the ocean like me ure driving along ure favorit twisty road and theres a moon tide washed over the road in the right spot swooosh salt water eeeewww very bad but my main question is the rmr scoop vs true cai thanx is it just me or do i ramble more then any other poster...

 

the performance difference is going to be like 1 or 2 hp tops with CAI vs. Short Ram. I added a scoop to get the coldest possible short ram air into the intake and make the difference as negligable as possible. maybe that's the way to go

 

but is the scoop really nesary with the rmr
yousing the orignal cold air under grill scoop

 

not necessary, either is inflating your tires to 35 or more psi. But it helps to funnel air more efficiently into the filter, also forcing atmospheric air onto the intake apparatus as well as the engine bay in general. Colder equals denser equals best running engine

 

I am thinking heavily of buying the RRM intake, but it is mainly because I am going to purchase a EVO hood. Will the intake suck cold air down from outside through the EVO style holes or will heat actually escape from those hood vents??

 

heat rises....

 

With the car in motion, middle vents on EVO let hot radiator and turbo air out. Side vent lets air in. The RRM vent simulates that with the side vent. Cold air will definitly go in when car is in motion. Faster you go more air going in.

 

What side air vent??? maybe you know something i dont...do you mean the smaller evo carbon fiber air scoop??