So i wana go a different, safer route than forced induction... just wanted to get some of you engine techy's opinions on the outcome w/ this setup ... lots of money is going into this, so please help:
injen intake, rrm throttle body, rrm intake manifold, rpw stage2 camshaft, rpw camgear, valve springs, 9:5:1 pistons, pauter rods, rrm header w/ buschur dp or rpw header + dp, rrm test pipe or rpw high flow cat, greddy evo catback

Professional install and tuning for the internal stuff.

Later i'll possibly be adding a torque converter and tranny cooler... but i need more $$ for that i believe..

EDIT: I forgot to mention the rrm piggyback... is it compatible w/ all this? or would it be rendered useless after the tuning from the internals?... thnx

Oh and btw.. its an a\t .... i'm goin for the fastest naturally aspirated a\t lancer... and i'm hoping to get it w/ this...

Anyways, plz help out

Thanks,

- Rob

 

may wanna have the head polished while your at it ...

if your not looking for comfort, you could look to remove the A/C from the car. That should free up some weight and hp ...


if your really serious, you could upgrade the MAS and get an AFC for it and have it tuned with that.

just some thoughts. i've had a few beers 2nite

 

i was planning on getting a afc for tuning anyways ... as for the a/c... right now mine doesn't work anyways, hasn't for 2-3 months.. i managed to blow up my junction box somehow.. so thats great haha.. anyways

thnx

 

yah i think u might want to get rid of the piggyback and go with an apexi safc-2 and do a maf upgrade... your going to have to talk to rhyzin about that or others who have done it... you also could think about getting larger injectors and a walboro fuel pump... n u might want to keep yur second cat on... yur not going to have ne back pressure so that means no low end... also rpw might come out with a twin throttle body set up... so you might want to wait on that

 

I second on the port and polish on the head. Also, I dont know if pauter makes rods for the 4G94 or you got a good deal on custom ones, but if you just picked out their name, the rods pauter traditionally build would be overkill for this kind of thing. Plus, up the compression further and go with a stand alone. SAFC doesn't give you control of timing and you cant tune under a load.

 

Piggy back should work great with those mods. Did anybody mention balancing and blueprinting? Also, why just the valve springs and not get larger valves too?

 

realistically you're looking at 120hp. Its awefully expensive to go NA as others have proven in the past. I know you dont want to go forced induction, so maybe an engine swap ? a tuned 6a12 MIVEC is good for 200hp at the wheels.

http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_1917/article.html

this is a mirage thats had the 6a12 transplant, he's one happy little camper now

 

Recent dynos seem to show more than 120 whp with mainly bolt-ons (up to 127 if I recall from the dyno page, and I have 109 with just an intake and reflash). Like you said, anything more than that will cost a bundle, but I believe the RMR Lancer gets about 140 whp NA, so there's possibilities.

 

Lancerozr is heading in the definite direction with the mod's he's listed....But definitely
port the hell outta the head if your going with the stage two camshaft. I already have the stage two cam installed and I tested it without a port job, and then with a street port. The
differance with the port job was considerally noticible...especially on a turbocharged car.

 

larger injectors will only yield more gains with FI. larger injectors just allow more capability to add more fuel, as a turbo would need. s-afc i dont think is the best means for running a new MAS. go with the emanage. it reacts much quicker and gives you much more control, like duty cycles and timing adjustments were as the s-afc wont. you will also be able to tune your car for each mod you put on, and if you want to be really picky, you can tune for hot/cold days or gas mileage. you should definately look into a tq converter, as it will make your tranny more efficient for putting power to the wheels. also, getting an s-afc or emanage would render the rrm piggy back useless.

 

I'd go with a piggyback or standalone and ditch the MAS entirely. I know Hobie got rid of his with the AEM EMS and I think the Greddy E-Manage can handle it as well.

On top of that, you might as well go with higher compression to squeeze more power out.

And as urban mentioned, balance and blueprint since you're already playing with the interior of the engine.

 

If you ever do want an AC again, or even think you might, then I'd suggest getting it fixed now while under warranty. None of the stuff you're talking about here is likely to really void the warranty on it, but it's also not likely to make it easy for you to get it fixed.
-N

 

if you are planning on new pistons&rods- I say forget the cams and head and go turbo. Once you change the pistons and rods, I see no reason why you wouldnt want to go turbo anyway. If you have a little auto machanics knowledge you can change your pistons and rods in a day. I suggest getting the new pistons put on your new rods before the tear down, that way it all ready to go. Get a new head gasket. Its gravy, plus with the money you are going to spend to get maybe- if you are lucky 130hp, The hardest thing about the whole job is gapping the new rings, but if you can do math, its all spelled out for you. I know a fourth grader who is doing these types of equasions in school. But seriously, 200hp N/A is nice but unless you got real DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEp pockets its not going to happen with this motor.

 

...completely defies the reason of this entire thread.

i would definately go standalone like jon said with the AEM or the emanage and get a MAP sensor, that way you wont have the POS MAS sensor meshing and all that crapola in the way. also there is going to be a fine balance with the exhaust, ie; too much or not enough back pressure. and once you get it right, you are gonna have to fine tune it even more to get the type of power band you want. this car seems to be really responsive to changes in the exhaust system.

 

Gentlemen, Just look here.

http://www.mirageforums.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7523

Just about all of the mods should carry over to the 94.