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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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I already asked, buschur does not have any downpipe left.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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theres no downpipe, then what is connected to the header? do you have to use your stock one with the rrm header?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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i got the busher one from a fellow evom guy best money i spent gained alot of mid range to top end torque and it weighs about half as much.Just fyi if you have ever seen the stock dp huge bottle neck right at the cat/test ipe area i mean like 1/2in breathing space
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
PM coming for secret info... ;)
forgot about that
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Thriver
since u guys are on downpipes. Lets say i buy RRM headers i know it gets rid of the 1st Cat but will the Headers cover the empty space left over from the Cat..something ive been wondering.
what does that mean? i think you need to clarify
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Yes, secret info. I'm crazy like that. Only a couple of people know the deal...
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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hey 03 what i mean is that from what i heard from the ppl who install the RRM header it gets rid of the 1st Cat Converter. Which is why it gives ppl so much problems with the 02 sensor but since its gone what fills in the space since its in. In my mind i keep thinking that the header covers the area from exhaust manifold to where the 1st Cat begins. sorry if i didnt clarify b4
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Thriver
hey 03 what i mean is that from what i heard from the ppl who install the RRM header it gets rid of the 1st Cat Converter. Which is why it gives ppl so much problems with the 02 sensor but since its gone what fills in the space since its in. In my mind i keep thinking that the header covers the area from exhaust manifold to where the 1st Cat begins. sorry if i didnt clarify b4
Oh my lord.

Look at the parts and at the car.

RRM header does remove the 1st cat, which is inside the stock header.
The stock downpipe does bolt up to the RRM header.

The 2nd cat is the one back under the car (directly under the seats).

It is possible to avoid CEL with the RRM header. I know, I've done it.

Know what you're talking about before you preach!
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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thanks for the clarifcation.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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The downpipe does not cause CEL, dah! What are you all concerned so much about CEL? The best thing is what wiretap did, take out the bulb out of the gauge cluster and it's fixed.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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No CEL from downpipe.

And you're welcome.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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with the CEL on my car wont pass inspection, but that is a thing of the past i heard that RRM's downpipe comes with a cell eliminator.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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???
Originally Posted by Thriver
hey 03 what i mean is that from what i heard from the ppl who install the RRM header it gets rid of the 1st Cat Converter. Which is why it gives ppl so much problems with the 02 sensor but since its gone what fills in the space since its in. In my mind i keep thinking that the header covers the area from exhaust manifold to where the 1st Cat begins. sorry if i didnt clarify b4
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mitch44759
with the CEL on my car wont pass inspection, but that is a thing of the past i heard that RRM's downpipe comes with a cell eliminator.
Dude!
RRM make an exhaust manifold(header) without a downpipe. Their header used to cause a CEL light, now they have a CEL eliminator or something like that. If for example you would leave the stock header on and buy just a downpipe (from a muffler shop, secret info, or somewhere else) it would not cause CEL.
I'm not trying to be a jerk but come on, you have their non-ic kit and you should know all of that.
PM me or BlackSheepDj for the secret info.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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To agree with Greg, I'm going to say it.

Oh my god, RRM doesn't make a freaking downpipe! Can you read? How many times do we have to say it?
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