Thinking about a new project...all opinions welcome.
I agree with blacksheep, don't get a loan. But I don't think peicing together your own kit is a good idea either if you don't know exactly what you're doing. I know I couldn't handle it. A non-intercooled rrm kit would be less expensive than your prev budget, plus it comes with everything you need. To me thats a lot of weight off my chest to know i'm not getting into something over my head (and by me I mean you). Good luck with whatever you decide
I'm not saying their map is crap, but I am saying their map is a base. It's a very good place to start, but there is still plenty of improvement that can be achieve once it's tuned for your car.
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A lack of research isn't the problem, it's just what happens when you take an economy car and try to turn it into a performance car. The lancer was never meant to be turboed, nothing in that motor is designed to handle boost and the massive strain it puts on the motor. When I was still going to turbo mine my brother in-law (a mechanic who also modifies cars) basically told me "that motor will die prematurely, there is nothing you can do but enjoy it while you can." I tend to agree with him given all the problems people have when turboing their cars whether it's small things like idle issues or big things like their pistons melting. If that's fine with you (ie. you don't plan on keeping the car long enough to see it die) go for it. For me I wanted a car I could bag the crap out of and not worry about breaking anything, which is why I went for a WRX. It's fast out of the box (but like all cars could be faster, lol), handles like a go kart, has traction all year round and is made for rallying which makes it a blast on any road. Of course this isn't for everyone, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
Many people on here just think too highly of what's involved in a turbo kit.
All you need is a few lines, some pipes, a turbo, an intercooler and whatever misc. crap I did not mention.
It does not matter where the parts come from.
A 16g turbo ain't any different if it comes from John Doe down the street or RoadRace.
All he'd have to do basically is look at the components in RRM's kit and make a shopping list out of it.
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I agree with blacksheep, don't get a loan. But I don't think peicing together your own kit is a good idea either if you don't know exactly what you're doing. I know I couldn't handle it. A non-intercooled rrm kit would be less expensive than your prev budget, plus it comes with everything you need. To me thats a lot of weight off my chest to know i'm not getting into something over my head (and by me I mean you). Good luck with whatever you decide
It is an amazing car. When I was looking for a new car I thought about what I wanted first and it came down to performance. With this in mind I had a few options that I liked, namely the Cobalt SS (cheap but fast), Mazdaspeed3 (very nice), Nissan Altima coupe (looks great), and the WRX. Both my mother and my sister have subarus so I already had experience with them and wasn't all that impressed with the cars they had (outback legacy sport and outback I think). After driving the WRX my opinion changed instantly and I signed the papers that day. The clutch is perfect, the shifter is perfect, steering response is quick and informative, it handles like it's on rails (I have yet to get it to slide expect on gravel) and it is a rocket.
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It is an amazing car. When I was looking for a new car I thought about what I wanted first and it came down to performance. With this in mind I had a few options that I liked, namely the Cobalt SS (cheap but fast), Mazdaspeed3 (very nice), Nissan Altima coupe (looks great), and the WRX. Both my mother and my sister have subarus so I already had experience with them and wasn't all that impressed with the cars they had (outback legacy sport and outback I think). After driving the WRX my opinion changed instantly and I signed the papers that day. The clutch is perfect, the shifter is perfect, steering response is quick and informative, it handles like it's on rails (I have yet to get it to slide expect on gravel) and it is a rocket.
Hey, how about all you Nancyboys shut up and let this thread get back ON TOPIC?
I highly doubt JohnnyBoy427 wants to read you guys ranting about the ups and downs of the Lancer in a variety of situations.
Actually, nevermind. I'm making a new thread out of that crap.
Anyhow...
I highly doubt JohnnyBoy427 wants to read you guys ranting about the ups and downs of the Lancer in a variety of situations.
Actually, nevermind. I'm making a new thread out of that crap.
Anyhow...
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I decided I am going to try to go through with it. Hell I still got most of my life in front of me(hopefully) and still will have time to get rid of the lancer for something better when I get sick of it. When I get old I see myself as one of those grandpa looking guys in a corvette.
From what I have read 7 PSI doesn't put extreme stress on the engine and cause it to blow but it is enough for a very fun daily driver. Of course I am not saying that 7 PSI is safe by any means but like mitsuozboi said, you gotta pay to play.
If it does blow then what the hell. I know it was fun while it lasted and thats all that matters. It would give me the opportunity to rebuild the motor or maybe swap a newer engine in. Even though its better to learn from other people's mistakes we all have to learn from our mistakes sometime and I wouldnt have it any other way. Its life.
So I'm going to start some serious research. I'm dedicating a notebook to this where I can write my plan, costs, weigh the cons and pros, compare different parts and keep track of everything. So wish me luck folks and Ill let you know what I come up with. In the meantime still feel free to post some more opinions.
From what I have read 7 PSI doesn't put extreme stress on the engine and cause it to blow but it is enough for a very fun daily driver. Of course I am not saying that 7 PSI is safe by any means but like mitsuozboi said, you gotta pay to play.
If it does blow then what the hell. I know it was fun while it lasted and thats all that matters. It would give me the opportunity to rebuild the motor or maybe swap a newer engine in. Even though its better to learn from other people's mistakes we all have to learn from our mistakes sometime and I wouldnt have it any other way. Its life.
So I'm going to start some serious research. I'm dedicating a notebook to this where I can write my plan, costs, weigh the cons and pros, compare different parts and keep track of everything. So wish me luck folks and Ill let you know what I come up with. In the meantime still feel free to post some more opinions.
i sort of agree with what you guys are saying.
I don't think most people plan on racing the lancer competitively, most people just want to make their daily driver faster.
The bad thing is the only way to do that on our car is with turbo. Granted the engine won't last as long compared to stock, plus the upkeep may be more.
But running a proper turbo setup at a reasonable PSI on the lancer isn't gonna destroy it, it still can be a reliable daily driver.
There are just as many turbo lancer owners who have a lot of miles on their turbo'd cars with no issues, than those who do have problems.
So i don't think you guys should go overboard and act like turbo'ing the lancer is the worst idea in the world. It's good that you are telling the truth and being realistic about the issue, i just think you are swaying to much to the negative side.
I don't think most people plan on racing the lancer competitively, most people just want to make their daily driver faster.
The bad thing is the only way to do that on our car is with turbo. Granted the engine won't last as long compared to stock, plus the upkeep may be more.
But running a proper turbo setup at a reasonable PSI on the lancer isn't gonna destroy it, it still can be a reliable daily driver.
There are just as many turbo lancer owners who have a lot of miles on their turbo'd cars with no issues, than those who do have problems.
So i don't think you guys should go overboard and act like turbo'ing the lancer is the worst idea in the world. It's good that you are telling the truth and being realistic about the issue, i just think you are swaying to much to the negative side.
I decided I am going to try to go through with it. Hell I still got most of my life in front of me(hopefully) and still will have time to get rid of the lancer for something better when I get sick of it. When I get old I see myself as one of those grandpa looking guys in a corvette.
From what I have read 7 PSI doesn't put extreme stress on the engine and cause it to blow but it is enough for a very fun daily driver. Of course I am not saying that 7 PSI is safe by any means but like mitsuozboi said, you gotta pay to play.
If it does blow then what the hell. I know it was fun while it lasted and thats all that matters. It would give me the opportunity to rebuild the motor or maybe swap a newer engine in. Even though its better to learn from other people's mistakes we all have to learn from our mistakes sometime and I wouldnt have it any other way. Its life.
So I'm going to start some serious research. I'm dedicating a notebook to this where I can write my plan, costs, weigh the cons and pros, compare different parts and keep track of everything. So wish me luck folks and Ill let you know what I come up with. In the meantime still feel free to post some more opinions.
From what I have read 7 PSI doesn't put extreme stress on the engine and cause it to blow but it is enough for a very fun daily driver. Of course I am not saying that 7 PSI is safe by any means but like mitsuozboi said, you gotta pay to play.
If it does blow then what the hell. I know it was fun while it lasted and thats all that matters. It would give me the opportunity to rebuild the motor or maybe swap a newer engine in. Even though its better to learn from other people's mistakes we all have to learn from our mistakes sometime and I wouldnt have it any other way. Its life.
So I'm going to start some serious research. I'm dedicating a notebook to this where I can write my plan, costs, weigh the cons and pros, compare different parts and keep track of everything. So wish me luck folks and Ill let you know what I come up with. In the meantime still feel free to post some more opinions.
I would recommend taking all the precautions to ensure a strong engine. While I'm sure quite a few people will disagree with me, I would still change the rods and pistons just as an insurance policy. That way the obvious problems are taken care of so if for whatever reason you get a boost spike because of changing temperatures, leak, etc. you'll be ok.
I would recommend taking all the precautions to ensure a strong engine. While I'm sure quite a few people will disagree with me, I would still change the rods and pistons just as an insurance policy. That way the obvious problems are taken care of so if for whatever reason you get a boost spike because of changing temperatures, leak, etc. you'll be ok.
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Oh god yes. I never race on the street, well I have a few times but hell who hasnt, and the best thing ever is when some jacka$$es pull up next to you and start revving their engines and pulling ahead and slowing down you just ignore them. It just makes me laugh because I keep thinking about some little kid who is starving for attention.
Oh god yes. I never race on the street, well I have a few times but hell who hasnt, and the best thing ever is when some jacka$$es pull up next to you and start revving their engines and pulling ahead and slowing down you just ignore them. It just makes me laugh because I keep thinking about some little kid who is starving for attention.