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Any body see the article about the supercharger for the lancer in Sport Compact?

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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Keep in mind although this thing is a "supercharger" it's a centrifugal supercharger which means it's basically just a shaft driven turbo. So what that means is same efficiency issues... and then the super won't produce very much boost at the low end so you will really only have top end... which is well not the most intelligent layout for the car... Build a turbo system with the methanol injection and fuel control from the rippmodds setup and then you'd be haulin.
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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hmmmm thats sounds like an intresting idea.
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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do have this one comment to say about this "evo power" well at 9 psi boe ran the 13.8 so with this much power you would be awefully close if you could hook up.(he did have lsd dont know bout slicks)
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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I believe he had slicks too.. stock evos run low to mid 13's.. so yes with more hp than bo ran previously you could do it. But sure whatever...
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Yeah, Boe was not on street tires. Also I don't think he's ever posted a dyno (or made a claim based on a dyno chart), and I don't think that HP estimate was made at the time he ran the 13.8.

Until I get to drive a SC'd Lancer I guess I won't really know for certain, but I suspect similar characteristics to a smaller turbine (T25 or T28..which isn't even that small) turbo setup. Of course that's PURE speculation so I wouldn't think much of it.

I also don't think it's wise to compare FI Lancers to Evolutions.

As for dualcharging, it's absolutely unecessary. There's no reason you should need this if you simply pick the right sized turbine. You're not running 60psi of boost on a turbo so it's not like you need a supercharger for low end...and if you did, you'd probably spend less money using a twin turbo setup. Doable? Sure...but why?
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by njvtec
Compared to superchargers that are available for other sport compacts $4,000 seems like a lot of money. Granted you can spend $10,000+ on a supercharger for a BMW, but Honda turbo and superchargers seem to be a bit cheaper. To dump $4,000 into a $15,000 car is a bit much. If you have $4,000 of expendable cash laying around you should probably go out and finance an EVO. Secondly, the resale value of an EVO will be a lot better than a supercharged OZ. Not that it wouldn't be cool to have a forced induction US Lancer.
I've put way more than that into my car. I simply cannot afford a $500+ monthly payment. I CAN afford to spend extra money on parts whenever I have it. And that's not even making mention of insurance.
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Amen Andrew

Or you can get lucky and find someone who sells you their FI vehicle and then the thousands and thousands of dollars of turbo and engine work only cost you about 1000 or 2000 .
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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no i was just thinking that he ran 9 psi and based on what the dyno charts that have been done on 6-7 psi i kind of speculated that he had about 200 hp on tap. but like they said comparing evos and non-evo lancers is a waste of time 2 totally different machines
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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so 13.8 for sds lancer, and evo's run like 13.3 i think
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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No.. boe runs a turbo.. not a supercharger. forged internals, LSD, port and polish, etc...

The shape of the power band matters just as much as the peak numbers... you need LOTS of area under the curve to make a car genuinely fast. I could tune a car to 300 whp at 5,000 rpms but if it only has 100 whp at 3,000 rpms and a different car has 200 across the board then that'll matter more..

AND for the record.. read my signature.. speed/acceleration/1/4 mile is much more about your torque than your hp.
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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yeah i was just thinking about that. i posted that sds lancers would have evo speed. but that can't be because evo's have 277 ( for got exact #) pounds of tourqe, and this kit will give us 217. so it would beat us off the line, and reach its top end speed before we do , resulting in us geting beat no matter what.

overall if a sds kit can break our cars into the 13's its a must buy.

what the mustang gt's 1/4 time?
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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well yeah sd but i was just speculating b/c we have yet to see a dyno map...
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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well most Evo's(stock) dyno at about 230-240 whp...cuz of AWD they lose a decent amount

this kit gives us 217 or 221 whp....forgot which was which. ANYWAYS we weigh less...so if u can get some grippy tires u might be able to hang with an evo on a roll...the AWD would pwn off the line...
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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i could have sworn the sds was 222 whp

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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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ya the only thing that would make the evo still win i think is that they just would rape our cars off the line ues you had a phat LSD and slicks or grippy tires ??
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