Front and Rear mounts ready to go!
Front and Rear mounts ready to go!
After making the molds and getting stocked up (a little!), we're ready to start offering our Lancer front mounts. If they go well, we'll offer a transaxle side mount too. The rear is just about ready, we're just stocking up still. There isn't much we can do about the engine (passenger) side mount because of its design, however.
The mounts are NOW AVAILABLE on our website.
I'm most interested in seeing what improvements can be made at the strip or autocross with these installed (the biggest is launch control, but they'll help you keep from missing shifts too). Anyone who actually races (and emails me a recent timeslip to prove it) gets shipping priority. I want to see some good numbers on how much our mounts help on the Lancer. Our mounts are already proven on the Neon, Stratus, Eclipse, and others, but I'd like some hard numbers to brag about
The radiator brackets will be availabe as soon as I get those prototypes back...
The mounts are NOW AVAILABLE on our website.
I'm most interested in seeing what improvements can be made at the strip or autocross with these installed (the biggest is launch control, but they'll help you keep from missing shifts too). Anyone who actually races (and emails me a recent timeslip to prove it) gets shipping priority. I want to see some good numbers on how much our mounts help on the Lancer. Our mounts are already proven on the Neon, Stratus, Eclipse, and others, but I'd like some hard numbers to brag about
The radiator brackets will be availabe as soon as I get those prototypes back...
Originally posted by wh0re
Excuse my ignorance but what is it exactly that the mounts do to improve performance? I am assuming you mean engine mounts or am I off on this?
Excuse my ignorance but what is it exactly that the mounts do to improve performance? I am assuming you mean engine mounts or am I off on this?
Re: Front and Rear mounts ready to go!
Originally posted by DM Racing
There isn't much we can do about the engine (passenger) side mount because of its design, however.
There isn't much we can do about the engine (passenger) side mount because of its design, however.
Re: Re: Front and Rear mounts ready to go!
The most important mount to replace initially is the front, because a) it's weak, and b) it's along the engine's rotational axis. What happens to give you wheel hop is that when you launch, the engine "jerks" back and forth along its rotational axis, causing a sudden lifting of weight off the wheels.. it pulsates this way, and you get wheel hop. By replacing the weak front and rear mounts (which do not really hold the weight of the engine at rest, but rather keep it from rotating along its axis) you prevent that movement. The wheels stay planted because the weight is consistant, and you can launch much harder and smoother. The transaxle and engine mounts actually hold the weight of the engine, however because they're not along the ROTATIONAL axis, they're not going to really cause wheel-hop. There is another reason to get better mounts, and that's missed shifts. It's a big problem in the 3g Eclipse with slushy stock mounts. I'm not sure how bad it is in the Lancer, I haven't been able to drive on hard yet. Because the transaxle mount is close to the shifting levers on the tranny, getting a stiffer transaxle mount will further reduce movement, so that the distance between the beginning of the cable (the shifter) and the end of the cable (the lever on the tranny) doesn't change.
The reason we offer FLEX (60A durometer) and FIRM (80A durometer) mounts is so you can mix and match based on your performance needs and your requirement for low vibration (the stiffer mounts will inevitably cause some vibration). We're running a FIRM front and FLEX rear and sides in our 2002 Stratus Coupe, and the combo works great. We're running FIRM mounts in all 3 positions (there is no rear mount, but rather a little shock-absorber thing) in our '96 Neon ACR, and we put down 0-90 mph in 12.1 seconds on STREET TIRES consistantly.
The Lancer has four mounts. The only one that it looks like I can't really improve upon is the engine side one. Front and rear are already done, and if they sell, we'll make the mold for the transaxle side, and purchase an engine side mount to see if we can work with it.
EDIT: Because we base our mounts on OEM mounts (we purchase new parts to serve as "shells" for our polyurethane filler) they bolt up just like OEM. We haven't had a chance to do real-world testing on them yet. Once we do, I'll post some hard numbers. If anyone is near a dragstrip and wants to do some before/after runs, I'd be very appreciative (to the tune of a free set of our brushed aluminum radiator brackets).
The reason we offer FLEX (60A durometer) and FIRM (80A durometer) mounts is so you can mix and match based on your performance needs and your requirement for low vibration (the stiffer mounts will inevitably cause some vibration). We're running a FIRM front and FLEX rear and sides in our 2002 Stratus Coupe, and the combo works great. We're running FIRM mounts in all 3 positions (there is no rear mount, but rather a little shock-absorber thing) in our '96 Neon ACR, and we put down 0-90 mph in 12.1 seconds on STREET TIRES consistantly.
The Lancer has four mounts. The only one that it looks like I can't really improve upon is the engine side one. Front and rear are already done, and if they sell, we'll make the mold for the transaxle side, and purchase an engine side mount to see if we can work with it.
EDIT: Because we base our mounts on OEM mounts (we purchase new parts to serve as "shells" for our polyurethane filler) they bolt up just like OEM. We haven't had a chance to do real-world testing on them yet. Once we do, I'll post some hard numbers. If anyone is near a dragstrip and wants to do some before/after runs, I'd be very appreciative (to the tune of a free set of our brushed aluminum radiator brackets).
Originally posted by pjal84
Waaaaaait a second. I don't see how having a stiff mount (urethane?) on one side and a soft stock one on the other can help to much especially when big time weight shifts occur. I'm pretty sure that'd sting in the handling department when you have to steer one way going left, and change your technique going right...same comment goes for dragging when you're having one side of the engine bob on a hard launch while the other keeps the left wheel planted...
Waaaaaait a second. I don't see how having a stiff mount (urethane?) on one side and a soft stock one on the other can help to much especially when big time weight shifts occur. I'm pretty sure that'd sting in the handling department when you have to steer one way going left, and change your technique going right...same comment goes for dragging when you're having one side of the engine bob on a hard launch while the other keeps the left wheel planted...
Last edited by DM Racing; Sep 26, 2002 at 11:18 PM.
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The radiator brackets themselves are brushed 6061-T6 aluminum alloy- I'll leave it up to the user to paint, anodize, or powercoat them (or just leave them as-is, 'cause they already look great!). They DO come with anodized aluminum fasteners, however, in your choice of silver, gold, red, blue, and purple.
Just an update all, the front AND rear mounts are now production parts, and so are the radiator brackets. We've got some customers that are getting their brackets shortly (and some that already have them) so we're just waiting on some pics now...
i dont know if u guys are still around, but i was interested in SUSPENSION BUSHINGS. well, stiffer ones than stock of course. I autocross and by getting some stiffer suspension bushings, it should help stiffen up the suspension a little and increase road feel. I knew you guys made the engine mounts so I was wondering if you guys are thinking about suspension mounts? Are you guys still around even? This thread is a year and a half old..so yea. Get back to me if you can, thx.
I don't see all that much help on a low hp engine, although I have seen how much the engine twists inside the car on a dynojet. But if you're running forced induction, it's probably a good idea.



