Show some respect! People here spend hard-earned cash for these cars. Your comment is worthless and unnecessary, it's not even an opinion, or for that matter, a fact.

There is more to than just the U.S. market and the U.S. made models. In Europe and a number of Asian countries is very well regarded.

Mind you, I do not support shoddy quality, and if skimped on the paint of certain production runs of the Lancer, they should be held accountable.

 

yes, in fact that is what wax was for originally, to protect the paint before they had clearcoat. Clearcoat does the same job but better it is actually redundant and unnesesary to wax a clearcoated vehicle.(And it makes it a pain in the *** to repaint becasue it cloggs the paper and contaminates the surface causing fisheyes and delamination.)

Get some polishing compound and a soft cloth and find a small scratch and try to polish it out. or just polish anywhere. If after you buff it the cloth has the same color as your car you have no clearcoat. if the cloth is white you do.

If you are sanding somethingthat is Base/Clear the dust will be white at first until you are through the clear then the dust will be the color of your paint.
Single stage paint is colored all the way through with (an) additive(s) to make it shiny. when you sand or polish it it is always the color of the car coming off.

Regular basecoat is dull the clear makes it look shiny

 

damn, you must have written the book on clear coats man. this helps me so much. Thanks! ! !

 

Well, I disagree on the pointlessness of waxing a clearcoated paint job...it is for general maintenance that I wax my car, to continue to keep the clearcoat looking like new. My car sure doesn't see it is useless; everyone thinks I have aftermarket paint because of it for two years running now. It's safe to say as long as I keep waxing the clearcoat I won't have to waste any more time and money in shops like yours than I have to. Should I really have the paint shop re-clearcoat the car at frequent intervals as waxing to counteract the paint oxidation that occurs over time? I think it's about time your book was closed...Auto Paint for Dummies, that is. Also safe to say that if half your time was spent sanding instead of on the computer you may learn a thing or two you didn't already know...but you have a ways to go before you should be consulting in your field. Is it really some great discovery that sanding something with no color would appear to be white or clear while sanding something that does would appear as the same color being sanded? Colored Paint? BRILLIANT!!! Don't you also have to sand and prepare the surface before you can repaint it, like every other paint job in recorded history? So why are you complaining about WAX again? That will be long gone by the time you get to the paint. Prepare surface for paint? BRILLIANT!!! But what am I thinking? You do this for a living...

Also, no problems with my paint...I wash the car every week and wax it every other...just to be safe...no problems at all so far. Regularly wash and wax my $15,000 investment? BRILLIANT!!!

 

ur kind of an *** eh?
first of all i was helping people out sorry if you se it as stating the obvious... second if you sand a waxed car it grinds the wax into the lower layers of pain and clearcoat... it dpoesnt just go away smartguy. And who do you know that re claers their car "at frequent intervals?" like every 10 years maybe... thats about all you should need...
oh and you are ranting on a thread thats 6 months old.... and I need to get off the computer? get a life.

 

Just thought I'd jump in to help a little. It's actually a simple matter of money. Solid color cars dont 'require' a clearcoat, though a clearcoat does make them look better. The only time you see cleared solids is when it's a three stage, or a higher dollar vehicle.

Since a solid color is the same color throughout it's mil thickness, you wont have issues with removing material during colorsanding or rubbing that you would with metallics and pearls. The same ingredients that are added to clear coats for durability and UV protection can be added to the paint pigment for a solid color. To put clear on top of a solid is just spending extra money that factories don't usually want to spend.

Metallics, pearls, and three stage solids require a clear coat so the 'color' stage does not get sanded or rubbed into. It also provides the ability to apply 'thinner' color coats that can get coverage, achieve the desired finish, and still be able to apply a protective clear coat on top of with out a lot of mil thickness. There are single stage metallics out there, but most, if not all, car manufacturers have gotten away from them to avoid waranty issues and bad customer feedback.

As far as these cars being 'peelers', I don't know why they peel for sure, but it's probably the same problem as GM was having, the paint just doesn't stick to the primer. Either they're not chemically compatible, or the body isn't getting from the primer stage to the paint stage at the right time, or the paint or the primer is prematurely 'breaking down'. I imagine whatever it is, it would cost Mitsu a fortune to correct if they admit it's their fault, so they just take the easy route and give everyone the finger. GM ante'd up and resprayed a lot of cars for free, I can only imagine what that cost them. I know the resprays weren't much better though.

Oh, and on the wax thing, RumbleCam and OZRACINGWV, you guys are both right. You don't haaaaave to wax a clear coated car since the clear has it's own built in UV protection, but it does make them look better and in some cases can make cheap clear last longer. Of course the opperative word here is WAX, there are waxless polishes.

 

most manufacturers do clearcoat solid colors though... i havent seen single stage paint on a modern vehicle Ever untill my car...

 

I agree, MOST probably do, obviously not all.



Sorry if this comes off wrong, but how long have you been in the trade? I left the collision end of the auto trade seven years ago and single stages were still quite common. I'm sure there's a lot fewer now, but they are still rolling off the assembly lines.

 

Thanks for giving my rebuttal for me MYoung...well put, that was my point exactly...obviously he hasn't been working long enough to be giving out advice. It is indeed very common to wax or polish a vehicle, and it does protect whatever finish coat is there, clear coat or single-stage...I think I'll go work on the car some more now...stop wasting my time with BS'ers...

 

I guess if you consider knowledge and experience to be a detriment then yes, I am an ***. Your ignorance is greatly appreciated. My life lacks enough humor these days...

 

Last one....for those of you in the auto paint trade, listen to what this moron is saying! He works this for a living and doesn't know how to strip wax off a car? If it doesn't just go away, then how could a car ever be painted again? Do you just wait forever until the wax wears off naturally? And how in the hell can you predict that all the wax will be eradicated in the same uniform manner?God Almighty the insanity is never ending. And he calls me smart guy being scarcastic...Me get a life? Got one. How about you try finding a new career

 

whew! its getting hot in here! i wish this thread went somewhere cuz i got a random chip on my rear bumper. On the side skirts, the paint seems to be flaking away a little, toward the top, where it seems like an improperly finished edge. i thought at first it might have been my pants scuffing away at it, but the problem runs all the way down on both sides of the car - even in the back where there is little traffic. is this just a yellow OZ thing?

 

there seems to be a lot of people with this happeing to their yellow oz's its happening on my skirts too....

i dunno what americans do to their cars but all three of the domestic manufacturers in canada use clear coat on all their cars even cheap *** neons and cavaliers....

actuallly i wouldnt mind if someone would tell me what modern vehicles are still painted in single stage.. really i dont know of any but ours...
i been working in the trade for 3 years this is my fourth so by modern vehicles i mean since 2000.. i know there were a lot of single stage paintjobs back in tha day...
and i give up arguing this guy misinterprets everything i say...