is that rear bumper shorter than our stock ones? i mean doesn it stick out less than ours?

 

yea, thats why you have to remove the reinforcment bar. Charles didn't really like how its really flat but i think its a lot better, especially from a corner angle, it looks like it has a fake lip kit on it and it doesn't look too bad. I dunno I really liked the kit and if it was urethane I definitly would have kept it, I wanna lower my car a bunch so I cant take that risk.