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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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Exactly! That's what I'm saying! The few who did raise their limits are turboed and have a good tune/setup that have potential to keep making power. In example most of us are running a 16g,now if someone had a t28 or something like that? Come on stop fronting! Your turbo is winded and you're pushing dangerous territory.

This guy is talking about getting ecuflash just to raise his limiter because NA is making power up there!

When I was NA (and dumb) I had SRI, catback, headers, piggy and maybe another mod or 2, flat interstate I couldn't get past around 115. Foot to the floor, she was giving it all she had. There's no "power" up there, NA, even with mods. I am saying he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Now if he knew what he was talking about he'd say something like I'm going to get ecuflash to adjust my NA tune to try and gain a little more. Not raise my Rev limiter so I can keep making power.
im not getting ecuflash justt for my rev limiter, i agree that would be just dumb, im mostly getting it to start logging and getting used to it because i will go turbo soon, and i need to know how to tune, once i feel comfortable with it i will do a tune and try to squeeze the couple extra hp that may be there out, i wouldnt increase my limiter until i at least get headers cat back, throttle and IM ported, to where its possible there may be something more to gain higher up, where im at now it would just be hurting me when i could be acceling faster in the next gear already.


also i did see somewhere that the 06 auto has an overdrive feature, idk if i have it but its possible i suppose...
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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If i were you i would concentrate on getting the right info and gathering parts for the turbo install. Ask questions about things that are unclear about turboing before getting into the tuning part. Not many/none of us have tuned the n/a engine and if you don't know what you're doing it can easily go wrong. At least if you're turbo we can help you because many of us have tuned our cars ourselves.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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But see, here's what you don't even understand. Iirc in the stock lancer rom there's no option to raise the Rev limiter. It's not there! So to do that you'd have to transcribe your stuff to the big maps. Which is going to require you to know a little (at least) about what you are doing.

You know what? Never mind. I don't have anything else to say. (I'm sitting here telling you I had more slapped on parts than you without real results, you're saying you just have theory that it's still going).

It's your money! Spend it up. It doesnt phase me. This guy is talking about he got a spoiler so that should help with mph! Dude, it increases drag! How is it going to make you faster when IT INCREASES WIND RESISTANCE?!

I'm done. I... I just can't...

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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But see, here's what you don't even understand. Iirc in the stock lancer rom there's no option to raise the Rev limiter. It's not there! So to do that you'd have to transcribe your stuff to the big maps. Which is going to require you to know a little (at least) about what you are doing.

You know what? Never mind. I don't have anything else to say. (I'm sitting here telling you I had more slapped on parts than you without real results, you're saying you just have theory that it's still going).

It's your money! Spend it up. It doesnt phase me. This guy is talking about he got a spoiler so that should help with mph! Dude, it increases drag! How is it going to make you faster when IT INCREASES WIND RESISTANTS?!

I'm done. I... I just can't...

im not trying to argue with you or say youre wrong about anything? i really appreciate all the help you guys give me, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TUNING/MODDING i know that, and thats why im here, all i was saying is i feel pickup more at 45-5500 rpms versus my 01 eclipse i had(normal stock cars basically is what i was comparing them to)

it is good to know that i wouldnt even be able to increase the limiter, i probably would have asked about that in the future..

and when i wrote about the spoiler i admit i wasnt thinking, i left for work as soon as i got done and i was thinking to myself about how the heck a spoiler would add speed?!?!? it basically adds weight to your car the faster you went and if anything would make me a few mph slowerr then what i could actually go, i admit, that, was just stupid..

but i know youve had your car modded pretty crazy, so i would prefer to get advice from someone like you, i just dont understand why youre getting mad about it? im here to ask questions and figure things out like 90% of us probably are.. im sorry if i make dumb statements sometimes, i dont always see how literal people can take things and it come off sounding a lot different then i meant to say them...

i want to turbo as soon as i can, just tell me what i should do on the way there until i can save enough for it...
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 06:12 AM
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Sorry man. I didn't mean to flame but some of the things I was seeing had me bugging out. We all had or had NA Lancers and I can understand how you may feel it's fast. These cars are not fast. NA parts slapped on still won't make it fast or even faster.

You're still mistaken about spoilers. They don't help you cut through the air. And it isn't about weight either. You could have the biggest spoiler around that weighs 1 pound and overall your ability to accelerate will still be hindered. Spoilers increase your drag coefficient. Meaning it increases surface area and turbulence helping to keep the car more stable at higher speeds. The wind would be pushing the car down to help stay on the road. Not go faster. So in the case of Lancers, trying to get as fast as possible (and can't because we don't have enough power to overcome wind resistance) putting on a spoiler would probably decrease your overall speed.

As far as mods man. NA, I wouldn't spend anything. But there are cheap things that you can do. I'd get a SRI to get the filter and MAF adapter for a turbo build. I'd look into getting another Lancer intake manifold and grind that out to flow a little more air. Get one from a junk yard of course. Other than that you're wasting money on stuff that serves no purpose.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Green_Bandit
Sorry man. I didn't mean to flame but some of the things I was seeing had me bugging out. We all had or had NA Lancers and I can understand how you may feel it's fast. These cars are not fast. NA parts slapped on still won't make it fast or even faster.

You're still mistaken about spoilers. They don't help you cut through the air. And it isn't about weight either. You could have the biggest spoiler around that weighs 1 pound and overall your ability to accelerate will still be hindered. Spoilers increase your drag coefficient. Meaning it increases surface area and turbulence helping to keep the car more stable at higher speeds. The wind would be pushing the car down to help stay on the road. Not go faster. So in the case of Lancers, trying to get as fast as possible (and can't because we don't have enough power to overcome wind resistance) putting on a spoiler would probably decrease your overall speed.

As far as mods man. NA, I wouldn't spend anything. But there are cheap things that you can do. I'd get a SRI to get the filter and MAF adapter for a turbo build. I'd look into getting another Lancer intake manifold and grind that out to flow a little more air. Get one from a junk yard of course. Other than that you're wasting money on stuff that serves no purpose.
okay cool, i was thinking of having someone port and polish this IM while i watch to learn how to do it myself for the future.. or is it useless when i go turbo? for now i already have the SRI so i can check that off the list now
i suppose i could go ahead and buy stuff like lower comp pistons right? and just hold em til i install the turbo? i could boost higher with say 8.5:1 compared to our 9.5:1 right? (i believe thats what it is) and if you know, how high could i boost with it being a DD?
i suppose i will just stick to cosmetics til i get the turbo, cause i know im not gonna be able to go 6 months saving and not doing anything to the car lol
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Then you need a little discipline. You're talking pistons to run more boost. More boost than the top 4 fastest Lancers ran. (02 lancer, 03lances, burner, Steven) Get my point?
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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Yea it's pretty simple...you want faster? go turbo. You want to go turbo, buy what is needed as described as in many turbo threads on the forum. Read carefully every single comment and questions in the threads because every questions you currently have or will have has probably been answered before.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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yeah i took my time looking through a lot of them before i made an acct here..

and excuse me if i have the pistons thing wrong but isnt that why youd get low comp pistons? to run 20 psi give or take?

i know that my stock pistons would be messed up if i boosted higher than 10 psi, right?

i want to do this as heavy as i can, i want to have the fastest lancer possible, and i swear ill do it one way or another..

to make it easy i suppose my question would be what should i replace on my car to run a boost of 10-15psi and not run into problems?
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Green_Bandit
Then you need a little discipline. You're talking pistons to run more boost. More boost than the top 4 fastest Lancers ran. (02 lancer, 03lances, burner, Steven) Get my point?

i am a young padawan, teach me the ways of boosting lancers!
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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There are multiple lancers running 7-10psi daily with no problem, I am pretty sure there is more than one that has 15 psi daily with a solid tune as well, all stock engines I believe as well..

you need to research more because this stuff is all out there, I have probably read over 3 different build threads through and through that were over 30 pages long each. and I am just trying to low ball it here..
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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I run 13Psi daily , take it out the the track , street race , autocross and drive crazy everyday sometimes just for the hell of it (Responsibly) with no problems at all!

Btw on the powerband thing , my car instead of making 60whp more from 4k-6900Rpm I lose it lol
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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yeah for the most part most of my questions are things i didnt understand or didnt notice there

if you had one build thread that i should read the most, what would it be?
..ive read a couple but they didnt really say much more than i already know about turbo
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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Quick 11psi pull lol (Fwd life!)
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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damn, nice, i cant wait to have somethin like thatt!!! XD
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