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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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Bluetooth and Nokia

So I have the Bluetooth feature in my 09 with the 650W Rocksford Fosgate System, and I have an issue with and my phone, a Nokia E66 (technically identical to the E71). For calls incoming, everything works normally. For outbound it doesn't. When I tell call a stored number or call out the number, it displays properly, but it just sits there with the number on the screen for 5 minutes with out the phone dialing, the phone just sits at the idle screen. In the same situation, the phone will dial the number if I toggle the phone from the general to silent profile and vise versa, but the system/phone gets confused and doesn't route the call to the car, but "Call Active" is displayed. With my old Nokia 6300, everything works fine, as advertised. I know that the simplest resolution is to use the old one, but i would rather not.

Does anyone that has the same phone, or a Nokia E or N series, or any S60 Symbian phone have the same problem? Also, if you do have one of those phones and don't have that issue, please let me know. I'm trying to figure out if I should talk to Nokia or Mitsubishi for help.

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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Have you stored the phone numbers in your car? or are you calling from the phones phonebook?
I saw that you live in Ontario, CA. Most numbers now need a "1" before the phone number, like 1-905-555-5555.

Try deleting your phone and all numbers from the car and re-entering them into your car using the "1" method listed above. Make sure your numbers match the ones in your phones contact list.

GL
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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I'm using the cars phone book, and it display 1-519-... so it's not that. The system works with my old phone no problem. I'm thinking that the issue lays along the Bluetooth protocol. Ether the car is sending out something weird that the phone doesn't expect, or the phone should understand something but it isn't.

Thanks for your suggestion.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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I have an Nokia E51 phone and never had a problem with it. I always say the name of the person who I need to call, I haven't tried dialing out using a phone number though.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by humblehyper
I have an Nokia E51 phone and never had a problem with it. I always say the name of the person who I need to call, I haven't tried dialing out using a phone number though.
Thanks for the info humblehyper. Looking into the situation further, I see that there are little difference to the phone that you and I have, almost equivilent electronicly.I found out that the E71 isn't compatible eather and that phone is identical to mine so it's not a problem with the phone.I'm a little pissed off about that, maybe Nokia can do something about it because it looks like Mazda uses the same unit.For the rest out there that may be interested, I looked into it more. The Handsfree unit is made by Johnson Controls (http://www.jciblueconnect.com/ There is a compatibility list there). And I don't think that they did a good job with this unit, there are a lot of phones out there that are not compatible. Aparently when Bluetooth is writen on a product there is nothing to say that it has to work at all with other Bluetooth devices at all. I say a big thumbs down to Mitsubishi for not finding a better OEM Bluetooth solution.

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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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I have the same issue. I've used an N95 (old phone) and N97 (current phone) and the N95 worked like expected. The N97 however, doesn't work so well. Sometimes it would dial and most of the time it wont. More like 1% chance of dialing out? 99% it wont...

My guess is that it has issues with touch screen phones that have a home screen since you can immediately dial on the phone screen. Both phones use s60 except one is 3rd edition and the other is 5th. When i try to dial with my N97 it would confirm the number and say its dialing, but the phone wont do nething.

I really hope they somehow update the system or somehow fix this issue. Especially since it's now a law to use hands free devices where I live...

Thanks in advance for any info.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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It has a lot to do with which bleutooth protocol the phone is using. In general, there is version 1.0 and 2.0 which have slight differences. There are also sub versions to that which allow the phones to do more complicated tasks than just voice dialing. I blame the phone company for not correctly implementing the bleutooth protocols to increase the likelyhood of working with more devices.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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@davidl

I can start to see what's happening, your N95 is 3rd edition Feature Set 1, and it works and my E66 is 3rd edition Feature Set 2, and it doesn't. With you N97 being a 5th edition and not working it likely means and Nokia S60 past 3rd FS2 will not work properly. I was thinking about getting a N97 mini, but it probably wouldn't work.

@kalpakiotis

I don't really thing that the fault really lays with the phone manufacture, as Nokia had a big part in the creation of bluetooth. Nokia is the number one manufacture then any other company, I think they would know what there doing compaired to Johnson Controls. I believe that Johnson Controls just half assed it, considering they have a compatibility list for such a basic thing as Handsfree. I can see special uses for Bluetooth not being compatible with all phones but not this?

Well my old man just got a new Benz and my phone connected to that one easily and works perfectly, why couldn't Mitsubishi used the same supplier for there Bluetooth?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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I have Lancer and I have E71. Nothing new: doesn't dial.It most likely encryption issue than the hardware one.It has a HFP profile as required...
1.0 is gone with the dinosaurs long time ago....

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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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mine works with N82.....

but one problem... there are no ring tone when I'm calling people.... sometime I'm confuse whether I'm calling them or not....^^"

anyone has this issue...??
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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Mine is the same, guess it's just a way it was setted up....
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:45 AM
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ya, i have noticed that if u call from your phone, you do not get the normal dialing ring, and also there is a brief delay from when the other person picks up the phone and you hear them talking. if you use the navi to dial the number, you hear the dialing ring and there is no delay. i just ignore it.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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I don't have the navi...^^" I use the bluetooth system of the car to dial... but there are no dialing tone... ^^"

is that to do with my cell or there are something wrong with the unit...??
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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I don't have navi either. Nothing wrong with it and I actually like it the way it is...
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