I thought the new GT's were only about 260 HP, but the Mach 1's were around 310 or so. Maybe I'm thinking of the '04s. Anyway, if they're still using a solid axle out back, they're probably developing quite a bit of drag from a roll (not like AWD, but more than the IRS in the Cobra). And finally, that mustang above that did a 13.6 at probably 99 mph was about as good as it gets for the average driver. And that trap speed sucks if it does have 300 or whatever hp. Throw in a 6 speed and make them shift on there own and 13.6 will be a blessing, though it will go from a roll slightly better.

Oh, and one more problem: LS1s with a factory rating of 325 (but actually making about 380) were running low 13's with a 6 speed. The GTs may be slightly lighter, but they have quiet a bit less torqe and power.

At any rate, what it really comes down to is this: do you really want to have to brake around all those pesky turns on the way home, I don't.

 

I dont care what any one says. The mustang wether or not has mods up the *** is still a piece of crap. They just keep getting uglyer and uglyer. Plus im not stock so im not worryed. Bring em on. KILL me in the strait very unlikely kill me in a turn no I dont thinks. They kill them selfs trying to keep up. Blam-stang. Go boom dead.

 

POS=mustangs

 

All hail to the mustang gods. We are not worthy to be in your presence. aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh.....huuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm!!

 

umaimi80, STF up you non making any sense dumb *****. You say the new Mustang can handle because it is based off of jaguar platforms, come on dummy what jaguar has awesome handling? None that I can think of, no not the S-Type R which weighs almost 4000Lbs and slaloms at a laughable 65.0MPH. Or how about the XKR that slaloms at an even lower 63.4MPH. Wow, the Lotus Elise and EVO have some serious competetion there . The 350Z by the way was tested at 68.0MPH, so again you are being asked a question, where are you getting your information from, or are you just pulling it out of your a**? By the way I got my slalom numbers from the same magazine that you got 5.1/13.6 from. Now let's play magazine racing, your mag says 13.6 (I hope your not saying 13.1, I hope that was a typo), well my mag says 13.9, my other mag says 13.8, then my other mag says 14.0, and guess what all these times are with the manual transmission. So honestly genuis, if you think your dumb a** is gonna run a low 13 in a new Mustang GT, then all I have to say is . You probably think or thought you could have ran a 13.0 flat in your EVO, cuz that is what a magazine said. Anything is possible, some EVOs have run 13 flats, but if 98 EVO owners run mid 13s and 2 run 13 flat, does that make the EVO a 13.0 car. The same scenerio can be used for the Mustang. So until all the low 13 second time slips start pouring in for the Mustang GT, then I'll believe it. Until then as far as magazines go, MAJORITY RULES, the GT is a mid to high 13 second car with the MANUAL TRANSMISSION. Last thing umiami80, how about those Miami Hurricanes, are you guys still ranked in the top 5, woops my bad, you guys lost your last two games huh

 

I was at the SCCA Run-offs @ Mid-Ohio.

In T1 class where the Z06 Vettes, Porsche 911,s , 1 MUSTANG COBRA & 1 STi run: This was a joke for anyone to think that a Mustang can handle good. A little insight as to mods allowed.


1. Computer / Dyno Tuning
2. Racing brake pads
3. Race tires (of course)
4. Exhaust
5. Springs
6. Stock weight allowed

I have a link to the results...

Here are the results:
http://ww2.scca.com/clubresults.php?ID=196

The Cobra was DEAD-last ..look at the lap times. Pretty sad for a 390+ HP car IMO. My friend put down a 1:40 - 1:41 with a RESTRICTED Z28 that races in a slower class.

First of all..the chasis is BASED on the Lincoln LS platform which derived from the Jag. Second of all, FORD went in reverse with the chasis and put a straight rearend in the car and put Macphearson struts on the car instead of leaving the un-equal length control arms and the independent rear end. Why....because Mustang boys don't care about how the car handles (or just don't have a clue) because they would have bought a real car instead.

I've owned all 3 in the past : GT mustang, Cobra and an LS...the LS would out handle both mustangs for sure.

I think the only thing a Mustang will handle well is 10 bags of groceries in the trunk and your 50ish year old relative who is begging you for a ride because he is having flashbacks of getting beaten by an SS Chevelle when he was a young lad.

 

wow that was mature.....

 

wasnt mature, but I like it!! at least he did some type of research.

 

Lets dissect this train wreck, shall we?


Idiot-Suspension and tires and STIFF FRAME=Handling. The new JAG Frame is VERY stiff which adds to stability. The platform has everything to do with it, less resistance to flex and sway, but you know this cuz you’re a genius cuz you drive an Audi and Post on an Evo Site right . Jag frame is eons ahead of the old Stang frame, it has to be to allow it to be the best handling Mustang Ever with a Live Rear Axel, the $55,000 Cobra R is excluded in this one, but its $55,000 so who cares.



Again, you’re an Idiot, the Ford GT 40 and F-150 Pickup share MANY parts, does that mean the GT-40 Handles like a pickup ? By your reasoning it does, man you should keep your mouth shut cuz your type of stupidity may be contagious and infect some real members. That’s right, compare a full-bodied luxury car with a soft suspension to a Mustang, I think you just talk to hear yourself speak. Hell, The Austin Martin has Ford parts you ****. It has two Duratec V6 motors welded together, think before you speak, in fact, just don’t speak.



Your Just comparing a slalom run? You CAN’T be that stupid. You gotta be kidding man, really man, that is ONE, ONE comparison and means little. Maybe you forgot the Stang has a way higher Exit speed with something to do with torque and power band, IDK, its that V8 thing The Stang understeers at the Limit but can oversteer with the flick of the throtte. The Mustang pulled a better track time in the same Circuit Vs. the Z Track Edition, hell Toyota is about to make a Pickup that is gona do that same to the Z, it handles quite well, IDK HOW I COULD because the Jaguaris a tank Luxury car , I mean they are the same car right ?


I ran a 13.1 @ 104MPH stock, another guy here @ E-town ran a 12.8 @ 105 stock, you need to stop arguing facts you make up in your head, just becasue you can't drive, doesn't mean everyone else can't . Anything else or do you care to bench race some more? Maybe pull up a magazine and hold it as you argue, at least I would have something to look at as you waste words. I swear I am dumber for having to respond to this, you really are a tool .


WOW, you went to a backup Cheap Shot before even needing it , I bet you’ll be riding that horse rather then try to bring facts, good for you, really brings my point across better. See this is what people do when they have nothing better to say, nothing but hate for a Car, hate for a team that is obviously a better then 99% of the other teams out there. Maybe your **** has sand stuck in it . Maybe you should flush it out as you'll be less irritated and less bit.chy. All I know is 5 Nation Championships, 20 1st round draft picks the past 5 years, and they still manage to be a great team in the Heat of injuries. Player haters I swear, lose 5 games in 6 years, that’s VERY good, 2 national championship appearances the past 3 years, your just a jealous hater, get over it, But hey at least you proved to be a mature upstanding citizen with real points, oh wait

 

you really ought to take your own advice dude.

seriously, mods, anyone, can someone shut this guy up? honestly, can you be any more of an ***?

I tell you, it's people like you that made me worried about buying an evo in the first place. you're ruining this forum and you're giving evo owners a bad name.

 

Your guilty of the same, you bench race and think you car is king SH.IT. Its a great car, but you need to understand some facts little man. Haveing nothing to contribute you should shut your mouth as you can't hear facts while its open. So just take my advice newbie, again, no one cares what you have to say, you had to argue over a Mustang with absolute ignorance, deal with it


Oh please sell your Evo, buy another car, I would not want you Bit.ching everyday about stupid sh.it on this site

 

Here are a few excerpts from Motor Trend's review of the new Mustang that could help clear up some questions about the first all new Mustang since 1979. (talk about pushing your luck, Ford)


Early rumors had the Mustang based on a shortened version of the DEW98 platform that underpins the Lincoln LS, Ford Thunderbird and Jaguar S-Type. That chassis underwent many changes in achieving what the engineers had targeted in terms of structural stiffness. The front chassis rail architecture, floorpans, trans tunnel and saddle-style fuel tanks are smiliar. The rest of the chassis is all new, resulting in a frame that is 35% carryover and 65% Mustang specific.

Weight distribution improved from 57/43 to 52/48. The car measured .85 G on the Motor Trend skidpad. Not bad for a live axle in the rear.

The engine shares 40 percent of its components with the 2004 F-150 Triton's 5.4 liter and about 30 percent with the old SOHC two-valve engine.

Independent suspension was attempted but the 4.6 L V-8 proved to be too large to fit between the upper control arms of the chassis' double wishbone layout.

 

.85 I bet would imprve with better Tires. Tires are the most important part of the suspension IMHO. Still a tossable car, the Interior is great, probably as good if not better then the C6

 

hmm i dont understand you guys. When porsche or bmw owners talk **** about Evo, everyone here gets all bent out of shape, they say the same thing you guys are saying now about mustangs. I thought true enthusiasts would respect all type of cars. Why must it always be calling others cars POS. Hey everyone starts somewhere, and if they like their ride then thats that, why attack them and call their hard earned vehicle a POS . . .

Are you guys feeling threatened by the new mustangs? Cause you sure are acting like the porsche owners when they get smoked by Evo's and their nice porsche is being outperformed.


Nebo

 

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Exactly, and without one swear or ignorant statement. I will take notes.