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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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They have one cam on each bank, right??? That would make Cam(S) right???
No, one cam and that is it for LS1.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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appears you own the slowest evo in the world and everyone at the track had factory freak camaros t/a's and corvettes
Dude, that's cold ... The slowest EVO in the world. Geesh, I fely bad enough about the car then, why you wanna rub it in?
The truth is that many EVOs run like the "03 I had. I've spoken with a number of guys who had similar experiences...... My consolation is that the WRX was about 3ths slower than the EVO
I've seen EVOs go fast at the track, but none in stock form. All the fast ones had at least a MBC and many had lots more stuff. It's true that driving skill plays a big part in these things, but it's also true that a V8 with an automatic tranny is also simpler to drive. Just hit the gas when the light changes, no missed shifts, no clutch to bog, etc.
I've seen plenty of Camaros and Firebirds and Corvettes that ran in the 12s and low 13's at the track in Commerce, GA. I've also seen lost of mustangs that run like that. True, the Mustangs are not stock, but I think the GMs were stock. Those things are fast, no matter how you slice it. After my EVO was modded to around 260whp, I got a 13 flat at 106 before the clutch was toast. I never ran it again because the night I went with the new clutch, the A/C compressor seized and I was left stranded. I've since traded that car in on a new MR. I'll take it to the dyno soon to see what power it makes. It's real easy to calculate what speeds and ETs a car will run based on whp...... An EVO that puts down right at 200 whp cannot run low 13s or 100 mph traps. No way, no how...
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TURBODAWG
They have one cam on each bank, right??? That would make Cam(S) right???
8 cyls, 16 valves, 2 heads, 1 cam
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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Its a pushrod motor, which means the camshaft is inserted at the bottom of the block (where each cylinder bank joins to make a "V" at the bottom of the block and the pushrods extend through to the top of the block and contact the rockers in the head which opens and closes the valves. One cam for pushrod V8's.

Two cams for SOHC V8s.

Four cams for DOHC V8s.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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I was thinking of SOHC V-8 motors. My bad, I forgot they were still using the push rod motors. I stand corrected... Thanks for setting me straight...

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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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silverevo8,

13.9-14.0 Et constandly?did u use 5th gear?
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by invazn
silverevo8,

13.9-14.0 Et constandly?did u use 5th gear?
Not in the 1/4 mile. It ends before you can use 5th.........
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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SilverEVO8- have you hit 11s yet, I know you were really close? Just wondering, because your car has very good trap speed for your time (I believe this is the right SilverEVO8).
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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SilverEVO8- have you hit 11s yet, I know you were really close? Just wondering, because your car has very good trap speed for your time (I believe this is the right SilverEVO8).
No, I never even got close ... The car was finally sorted out by Dyno4mance and Vishnu. It put down 300whp with pump gas and I had a new Exedy twin disk clutch but I never went back to the dragstrip.
I guess it could have possibly run high 11s on race gas but I'll never have the chance to find out. I got sick of the car and all the little (and big) problems that came out of the modifications done by Busted Solutions.

In the end, we put the car as much back to stock as possible. Left the HKS cams, cam gears, 680 injectors, walbro pump and Xflash, and of course, the clutch. The car put down 236 whp on the DD dyno just before I took it to the dealer and traded it in on my new MR....

I'll see what it puts down at the DD dyno one day soon.......


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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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An EVO that puts down right at 200 whp cannot run low 13s or 100 mph traps. No way, no how...
Not that it matters but this is two stock slips with me easing off the line to save the clutch. You can tell by the 60 foot times. If I had launched 13.4-5 w/ 101 traps. Which I have done before. I would guess I have a factory average car, many have gone faster stock. I am just showing this becuase you said it was not possible.

I am the winner on both tickets
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sano
Not that it matters but this is two stock slips with me easing off the line to save the clutch. You can tell by the 60 foot times. If I had launched 13.4-5 w/ 101 traps. Which I have done before. I would guess I have a factory average car, many have gone faster stock. I am just showing this becuase you said it was not possible.

I am the winner on both tickets
Congratulations, you have one of the fast EVOs.... Trust me, your car is putting down more power than mine did and probably more power than most stock EVOs. There are many EVOs out there that run low 14's in stock configuartion.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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To everyone that think a evo can destroy a WS6 on the track, why are the WS6 on the same class as s2k, sti, nsx and evo rs on the SOLO II classification. (A Stock)
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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Regardless it's a good battle, I will say no more.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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???

Originally Posted by silverEVO8

Ummmm, is this an MR? If so, why does it have Enkies on it?
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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To everyone that think a evo can destroy a WS6 on the track, why are the WS6 on the same class as s2k, sti, nsx and evo rs on the SOLO II classification. (A Stock)
Because the WS6 has 17" wheels and a couple of other things that a regular Camaro or Firebird doesn't have, so it has to be in a faster class than those cars. The other faster stock classes are a very poor fit from a car type standpoint. No one thinks that an f-body has a chance in A Stock. In fact, the Evo is a joke there too. Sooner or later the Evo should be moved into a slower stock class like B stock.
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