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I still completely disagree with starting out with a little bike like a 250. You\ll spend a few thousand on that, learn how to ride and then you're stuck with a mini turd and you'll find riding friends and they'll have bigger bikes and you'll want something different. Unless you're rich don't mind throwing money away. A bike doing 50mph is still doing 50mph reguardless of how big it is. Every bike is different, some get going faster, have a different feel, but if you're gonna learn, learn on something you'll be happy with once you get over the beginner jitters. Take a real certified class, one that gives you your license and that will teach you the basics, buy a bike, what ever you physically feel comfortable sitting on, and then start slow with that. Just my 2 cents.
Originally Posted by SqEvoVIII
I still completely disagree with starting out with a little bike like a 250. You\ll spend a few thousand on that, learn how to ride and then you're stuck with a mini turd and you'll find riding friends and they'll have bigger bikes and you'll want something different. Unless you're rich don't mind throwing money away. A bike doing 50mph is still doing 50mph reguardless of how big it is. Every bike is different, some get going faster, have a different feel, but if you're gonna learn, learn on something you'll be happy with once you get over the beginner jitters. Take a real certified class, one that gives you your license and that will teach you the basics, buy a bike, what ever you physically feel comfortable sitting on, and then start slow with that. Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by coco
Get a ninja 250 or a bike of that size. Dont get an r6, 636, 600rr, gsxr600 as a first bike. You will drop the bike which will cost hundreds to repair. You will not learn how to properly control a bike becasue it is too strong. You will hurt yourself with the slightest mistake (even if you are a genius and have the greatest self-control).
And to the concept of the bike being too weak and you want to upgrade, most riders downgrade to something with less power. You can still have fun with a weak bike, in fact more fun. Last week I went to a mini track and drove an xr100 motard, I had much more fun then driving any of the bikes I have owned in the past.
Ask this question in a bike forum and they will lead you in the proper direction. People in a car forum are not bikers, at least most arent, so you will get the wrong answers. Yes there are exceptions to the rule of people who have gotten liter bikes and survived, but bike are very powerfull and can kill you in an instant.
And to the concept of the bike being too weak and you want to upgrade, most riders downgrade to something with less power. You can still have fun with a weak bike, in fact more fun. Last week I went to a mini track and drove an xr100 motard, I had much more fun then driving any of the bikes I have owned in the past.
Ask this question in a bike forum and they will lead you in the proper direction. People in a car forum are not bikers, at least most arent, so you will get the wrong answers. Yes there are exceptions to the rule of people who have gotten liter bikes and survived, but bike are very powerfull and can kill you in an instant.
Do you have any bike forums that you recomend thatwould be good. Thanx for the help everyone
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Originally Posted by lexat20
I feel comfortable on my buddies pro stock bike that runs 7.30's but I sure as hell wouldn't just jump on and go for a ride. Street bikes have super fast acceleration. New 600's can pull up the front wheel through the first couple of gears. For someone learning how to ride, I wouldn't consider that to be very safe. A dirt bike, or an enduro can be dropped many times and you never know it. Another reason I suggest starting with something used.
Yeah, I was shocked when my 636 got the front wheel up in 2nd without using the clutch technique. My brother bounced his stock 05 r6 and did a standup in 3rd. We are all selling are relatively new bikes because we understand that it takes a level of maturity to ride within legal limits. This level is something that I have in the car but cant quite hold onto while riding and I'm 25. The bike's gotta go. As stated before, I wouldnt recommend a new bike because if you dont like it the way you originally did after a year or so, you'll take a big hit financially. Take your time and choose carefully.
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I bought a Ducati Monster 620 last year and have loved every mile of it. It is my first "real" bike (rode dirt bikes when I was a kid.) Enough power to comfortably ride on the highway and is a very forgiving handler. I also looked at the SV650S. The looks of the Ducati won me over...
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Originally Posted by Links0000
Do you have any bike forums that you recomend thatwould be good. Thanx for the help everyone
I frequent http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/
There are a lot of typical question such as what first bike should I buy and people may flame you if you say 600cc supersport, especially if it is your first bike( just like what is the loudest blow off valve). Read some of the posts people have made in the past and you will get a better idea why riders stress using less powerful bikes.
You will see a pattern in the answers people give and see who actually has some knowledge about bikes. Typical good answers would be buy a dirt bike to get a good foundation, or get a ninja 250. Also like others have mentioned, dont save on riding gear. If you buy a used ninja 250, drop it several times, and you will be able to sell it at more or less the same price.
Learn to ride safe then move on to a faster machine.
http://www.rt1automile.com/hyosung/master.html
Take a look at Hyosung...pretty darn inexpensive, good components and good looking to boot. They have a new 250R which would make a great starter bike except of course for the full fairing (if you drop it). I'd buy a used 250 or really low-powered 600 "standard" for a starter bike. You'll get it on the cheap and be able to sell it for about the same as what you paid for it. EX500, Ninja250, etc...they're all good starter bikes. Sell it after six months and purchase something larger. Just stay away from the liter bikes until you've had a a few years under your belt. I'd also stay away from Ducati. Too unreliable, needs lots of TLC too. Yeah, some are ok but you're always taking a risk purchasing a low-end used Ducati. Most bike newbs tend not to keep up with maintenance. And there's a lot of it on any bike and it must be done correctly. Motorcycles are not ride and forget.
There's a forum for virtually every bike out there. So let's say you want info on the Ninja250? Just google Ninja 250 forums.
Take a look at Hyosung...pretty darn inexpensive, good components and good looking to boot. They have a new 250R which would make a great starter bike except of course for the full fairing (if you drop it). I'd buy a used 250 or really low-powered 600 "standard" for a starter bike. You'll get it on the cheap and be able to sell it for about the same as what you paid for it. EX500, Ninja250, etc...they're all good starter bikes. Sell it after six months and purchase something larger. Just stay away from the liter bikes until you've had a a few years under your belt. I'd also stay away from Ducati. Too unreliable, needs lots of TLC too. Yeah, some are ok but you're always taking a risk purchasing a low-end used Ducati. Most bike newbs tend not to keep up with maintenance. And there's a lot of it on any bike and it must be done correctly. Motorcycles are not ride and forget.
There's a forum for virtually every bike out there. So let's say you want info on the Ninja250? Just google Ninja 250 forums.
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^^^Maintenance wont be a problem. I'm going to school for automotive and am pretty strict when it comes to any maintenance(I change the oil on the EVO every 2k 
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Thanx everyone for the help. I will most likely from what I have researched so far just going to get a starter bike for a year like a ninja250 or a katana or possible the 250 in the link above. We will see how I am financial come summer time but I do want some money left over for the EVO!
).Thanx everyone for the help. I will most likely from what I have researched so far just going to get a starter bike for a year like a ninja250 or a katana or possible the 250 in the link above. We will see how I am financial come summer time but I do want some money left over for the EVO!
QUT-R i realized the r6 was cool for me when i went to look at a few bikes. everyone around me has gixers, ive never really cared for suzukis although they are great bikes with great resale. for me it came down to the r6 or the 600rr. i looked at both side by side and each had a big pro. i loved how the rr came with undertail exhaust for the 05, but i really loved the mean agressive look of the r6 front end. they are both almost identical in height and weight, so seating on both was very similar. i think the r6 for 05 put out just a few more ponies, but the rr was a few hundred bones cheaper. it all evened out in the end and i settled on the r6. after riding it all last summer i dont regret it, but i could easily see myself upgrading to a literbike within a few years.
buyers beware though, i thought that when i sold my evo i would lose the modding bug. with the bike its worse. so far i have windscreen, flushmount front signals, integrated tail light, fender eliminator, headlight conversion, devil slip on and frame sliders. all in all a grand easy.
sounds like you got a really good deal on your duc man, those are beautiful bikes.
buyers beware though, i thought that when i sold my evo i would lose the modding bug. with the bike its worse. so far i have windscreen, flushmount front signals, integrated tail light, fender eliminator, headlight conversion, devil slip on and frame sliders. all in all a grand easy.
sounds like you got a really good deal on your duc man, those are beautiful bikes.
Originally Posted by MrBubbler
my 05 636 wheelies just fine thank you.
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Originally Posted by Killboy
Man all of the top-line 600s are badass in some way. Anyone who bashes a particular brand is foolish and should be thorougly ignored.
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Last edited by coco; Mar 10, 2006 at 08:19 AM.
all new 600s are so close in every way that you really cant bash one without bashing the other. it really comes down to brand preference and looks.
as for the guy who is just starting, it doesnt matter what you get if you are responsible. whether its a 125 or a 1000cc rocketship, the bike only goes as fast as you twist the throttle.
as for the guy who is just starting, it doesnt matter what you get if you are responsible. whether its a 125 or a 1000cc rocketship, the bike only goes as fast as you twist the throttle.