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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 04:20 AM
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Which has more loss ? FWD or RWD ? i know AWD has around an estimated something like 35%.. but what it the difference ?


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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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An FF (front engine front drive) will typically have less loss than an FR.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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Yup. Its easier to pull than to push.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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Well, theoretically on a dyno you shouldn't see much of a difference. I think it has more to do with the drive shaft, but I could be wrong.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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Well, theoretically on a dyno you shouldn't see much of a difference. I think it has more to do with the drive shaft, but I could be wrong.
Yep - there are more 'bits' in a RWD layout. All this extra rotational mass and increased friction result in more parasitic losses in a RWD setup. But it's not a whole lot, a couple extra percent.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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Thats what i thought.. cause a rwd has to go through an extra 5 parts to get to the power down
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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I think that the greater efficiency losses in a FR configuration are mainly attributible to the rear differential's requirement to induce a 90 degree change in the axis of the rotational energy transferred through the driveshaft in order to drive the wheels. Friction is a lesser player but it all adds up.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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Partially correct jfh. Spinning a 3 to 7 foot long driveshaft is a major power loss, as well.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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7 foot driveshaft?! what rwd cars have you been driving lately? f450s? My 300zx's driveshaft is like, a foot and a half long.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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I've seen some pretty long driveshafts on some bigger domestics. One in particular was a Camaro Z28 driveshaft that the owner twisted up like a twizzler BEFORE it snapped and that had to be at least 3-4' long.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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I snapped the u-bolts on my 88 stang doing neutral drops from 5500.....First and hopefully last time ill see a driveshaft become a missle.

Anywho...the busted DS was about 4 feet long, if i remember correctly.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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I think the minor drivetrain loss that comes with RWD is worth the utter track domination over FWD. You can launch harder, do real burnouts, and oversteer.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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Agreed, Score.

FWD is for women and children. (no offense to the select women who can drive RWD cars better than most guys can of course)
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