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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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300zx vs MKIII Supra?

Looking to buy something else to work on besides my evo. What do you guys think about the 90 + 300zx TT vs the MKIII Supra Turbo. Both cars have their pro's and con's, been asking alot of fellow mechanics at work and it's about 50/50 on which to go with and honestly I'll be happy with either car just not sure what to get. Just looking to build a car that can toss down some silly hp #'s and 1/4 times and be decent on a roadcourse.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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I say go for the supra IMO It looks way better than that funny lookin Z
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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A 90 300zTT is one of the worst cars you can buy. That year the wiring has been known to go bad. In addition, since you like working on something else you will definately have your hands full. Something always goes wrong with those cars. The engine bay has so little room , its difficult to work on anything in there besides oil changes.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Won't your evo be able to man handle both those cars on a road course? They're both heavy but can put down some serious power. I'd go with a supra, I've been a tech for nissan in flemington for 2 year and i love the Z, Nissan though just like toyota are built strong and reliable but the Z is a pain in the ***** to work on and upgrade/tune. Although . . . my buddy with a 91' 300zx put down 746whp with I believe twin 20Gs and and AFC plus all other supporting mods. Just trying to make a point a stand-alone wasn't needed for that.

Just like you though I feel 50/50 about the cars, the supra just looks bad@$$

He was in the AKA rally, www.myspace.com/kduby there a video on my page

I'll ask him for to see if he has a pic of his dyno run

run a poll and see how the votes come in and ask for what reasons, it may help you wiegh things out

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Willeatyoursti,


The Supra is 3 times more expensive than the 300zx. One of the number one complaints on the Nissan 300ZX is how hard is to work on that engine, secondly the clutches don't last too long.

The Supra is going to make more power with lesser mods. One thing I must say about Supras that many people don't know is the fact that the Supra is factory software programed to compensate in the event of an accidental boost line breakdown which means that you could overboost the car and don't kill the engine(unlike most turbo cars).

Balance your pros and cons, if you want something economical then the 300ZX is the way to go, for power, the Supra is more capable.

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Willeatyoursti,


if you want something economical then the 300ZX is the way to go, for power, the Supra is more capable.

wouldn't a supra be just as economical as a Z if left untouched?? Any modded car starts to lose reliability down the line. They're like the same car in a lot of ways just fitting turbos in a 300zx is hard as ^%* and a lot more stuff plus i'm sure for other reasons I don't know as well as why supras have they're thing, If you want economical get a prius-
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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He said supra MKIII not MKIV so price is not the issue there.

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Willeatyoursti,


The Supra is 3 times more expensive than the 300zx. One of the number one complaints on the Nissan 300ZX is how hard is to work on that engine, secondly the clutches don't last too long.

The Supra is going to make more power with lesser mods. One thing I must say about Supras that many people don't know is the fact that the Supra is factory software programed to compensate in the event of an accidental boost line breakdown which means that you could overboost the car and don't kill the engine(unlike most turbo cars).

Balance your pros and cons, if you want something economical then the 300ZX is the way to go, for power, the Supra is more capable.

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rcheung
He said supra MKIII not MKIV so price is not the issue there.
Good point, I did not pay attention to the MKIII -MKIV issue, disregard most of my comments. By the way,thanks for the corretion.

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Yes the MKIV is the one to get. My nephew's buddy swapped a 2JZ from a MKIV into his MKIII, now that's a fun car.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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The MKIV is such a beautiful car. If I have never driven an evo before, I would probably be very happy even with a non turbo MKIV.

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Yes the MKIV is the one to get. My nephew's buddy swapped a 2JZ from a MKIV into his MKIII, now that's a fun car.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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I had a 1989 Supra as my 1st car, get that but make sure it is TURBO.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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yea sorry

yea sorry about that, I also didn't relize the MKIV-MKIII issue, but still the MKIII is pretty sick but with that note, I'd most likely go with the Z then but understand it's sill a pain to work on with little room under the hood.

PS. didn't mean to sound like a hater
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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LOL with all the confusion I guess I should have put MKIII in bold caps and so on. I realize the evo would hand both those cars their butts on a road course but I at least wanted somethign that could hold it's own in that department.

Couple questions
I know the Supra motors are strong despite head gasket issues but are they somewhat comparable to the strength of the 2JZ or not even close?

Which motor can handle more power stock for stock 7MGTE or VG?

Which cars tend to have the higher hp figures and better times modified.

The Supra is the cheaper car but also only starts with what 220hp about that so I'd have an 80 hp gap to make up. Is power really easy to get out of these just like the 2JZ's?

Maybe sport compact went about it the wrong way but I thought they had really put alot of money/effort into their Z car and on race gas and nitrous I thought they laid down in my opinion a meager 550whp around there. Is this car a spend more for less kind of car to mod?

Is a later model Z car worth getting that has the VTC?

How are the trannys in both the Z and Supra.

Thanks guys keep the comments coming and be sure to say which you would pick.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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When I was wrenching on my nephews 90 Supra, it responded well to the typical turbo mods. You have to be carefull with the head gasket. They blow easily once you start cranking up the boost. Head studs are a must. Even then the 7MGTE's are still prone to head gasket failures.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Ya I mentioned that up above as well. I believe Z cars also have issues with bearings when pushing power.
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