plenty of other vehicles would be fun after, or along with, an evo. an FJ is a perfect example because it is in almost no way like an evo. it's an automatic, high riding, off roading SUV. you wouldn't be driving it expecting to hug the curves, you'd be going off road and running over curbs in parking lots just because you can.

if you're thinking of switching and don't mind the thought of owning a totally different style of vehicle i think the FJ would be a great choice.

 

At first glance, you would think that the leaner running engine or more efficiently running engine would pollute less, but in reality this is not true. The trick of making the engine run with minimum emissions of undesireable particulates, consists of more than just a lean running engine. My understanding is than hacked or "tuned" ECUs that deviate from the factory settings will pollute more. Don't forget that everything is designed to run together. ECU, fuel system and emission controls are all designed for very specific results.

 

Why trade one relatively ugly car (for a sporty car) for an even uglier FJ. The FJ is one of the ugliest vehicles I've ever seen in my life. What was Toyota thinking -- it makes the Aztec look like a supermodel.

 

I'd hold out for Mitsubishi's Pajero Evolution:

 

It's all a personal preference type of thing ... Actually, if you really get in the thing and drive it, etc. It's very cool. I would have never thought I'd like it, but I did, it's way cool with the big square shape, the inclination meter and compass (and whatever the 3rd gauge was). I don't know why, but it was a very appealing vehicle

Cool! When does it come out?

 

OMG, that thing is ugly, yet im tempted by the "v8' emblem on the car. When did mitsubishi make v8's or is this an older engine 'v8'?

 

Your first statement is incorrect. Leaner running engines may pollute less, the same as or more. It is a very complex matter, but let's keep it simple for us nonengineers.

There is no doubt that leaner engines can pollute more, but there is also no doubt that leaner running engines may pollute less. The best a/f ratio for emissions is typically around 14.7:1 (it is a very technical explanation that I am not smart enough to give). Any leaner that 14.7, and you do increase emmissions (the actual disagreement is by how much), but if you are changing from 13:1 to a leaner 14.7:1, you will decrease emmisions by going leaner.

The thread I quoted claimed the high mpg EVOs "are polluting the air a lot more than stock". As I stated in the orginal post, I don't believe this is correct. believe the amount is exagerated from an EVO getting 26 mpg to a stock EVO. I will search this weekend and post some actual research on the matter.

 

i would never trade my evo for the fj cruiser. i worked on one a couple months ago. i had to keep myself from laughing too hard. the interior just felt cheap.

just my personal opinion, sorry if some of you like it...

 

I think it is funny that any EVO owner would complain about an interior that "felt cheap" and use that as a reason to not like a car. I love my EVO, but if cheap interiors are a problem, we would never own an EVO.

 

Than it must be a comedy show when you step in the evo.

Anyways, I actually like the FJ Crusier, has a very cool retro look to it and it doesn't look bad in blue or yellow. They are two totally different cars, so I guess it's gonna come down to personal preference. Based on your arm and upcoming surgery, I guess I would consider it... would probably make life a bit easier.

 

The EVO and the FJ are so different that it's really not possible to compare them. That's cool if you want to trade without regret. You'd never miss the EVOs performance if you drove the FJ, it's just not that kind of vehicle. I don't think the interior is any cheaper than the EVO. After all, it's a full off road vehicle, not a Lexus luxury sedan...


On another note, I just got through test driving a '03 M3 with the paddle shifters and the clutch-less 6 speed. It was a weird experience and I kept over-revving the damned thing because I could not shift on time
OTOH, I have to admit that the car feels like a real powerful sports car. The suspension actually felt firmer than my MR! Also, I keep hearing and reading about how these cars are slow... I don't know for sure how fast they are or how much power they put down, but it feels like it has a big V8. It actually feels a lot faster than the S4 with the V8 and it does not feel any slower than the EVO... It's not an automatic tranny but it will downshift to low when you stop, otherwise you gotta shift it up or down and it definitely shifts very roughly. I'm not sure I could get used to it. It's impossible to modulate the shifting without the clutch...

 

Well actually the interiors you should know are completely different. The door panels alone with the HUGE door handles. And the dash with the HUGE gauges. Retro? ok sure

 

It's just a concept at this point, but I think it looks hard. I'd certainly take it over the weaksauce styling of the Porsche Cayenne. I believe the V8 is a 4.7-litre from Dodge. Looks aside, what really matters is its Dakar Rally heritage and hi-tech drivetrain: Super Select 4WD, AYC, and ACD.

 

yea cuz you know the Evo is no fun...HAHA!

 

dont do it!