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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Nice car. However, I doubt that it is faster than an Enzo Ferrari in the ring.
Old May 11, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
Maybe obnoxious, but functional. Downforce and brake cooling are good
I can live with the side vents, but the wing is just TOO much. Im not a spoiler hater in any way, but too me it looks like some cheapy obnoxious fiberglass wing.

See the similarities?





Looks like i'll just have to get the base version with the more subtle spoiler.
Old May 11, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tristar Racing
Real quick, how much time have you spent driving an NSX, not just studying its performance numbers out of a magazine?
Ive study up on it extensively, articles, videos and the likes (never read any USDM magazines on them), but no, I never drove one. I know 3 guys that own one, ive seen them, sat in them... there are amazing looking, but something I could not see myself paying 90k for.
Originally Posted by Tristar Racing
Also, care to show me another car that makes extensive use of aluminum like the NSX that is cheap? How about hand made?
Your right, but what's your point? I knew this already. Your trying to convince me of it's 90k price tag and it's not happening. Besides being hand built with extensive amounts of aluminum, I need some other features/options to equal paying almost 90k for.
Originally Posted by Tristar Racing
Bigger fish to fry? The NSX was introduced to compete with the Italian Exotics and Prosche in the early/mid 90s. To me, thats bigger fish than a Nissan Mazda or Mitsubishi...
Yeah, but this isn't the 90's anymore, this is 2007. Even the exotics have step up there game and also some of the japanese monstors aswell. If Honda is smart they will not price the new NSX close or over 90k (unless it has some serious HP and features) or it will possibly see the same fate as the past production vehicle.
Originally Posted by Tristar Racing
Whats my point? Only the buyer can justify what is or isnt over-priced. Remember, to many the Evo is just an over-priced Econobox with a wing. And to some, the NSX is still worth every penny. Well, except the tape player it comes with...
The buyer did, hints why the car is no longer in production. Plus, the Evo has similar if not better performance than the NSX all for 60k cheaper. Do you really think in this day an age people car about the almost full aluminum body NSX? They see peformance numbers and than they see price and that's why the NSX sits on dealer floors and the Evo (and other similar power - cheaper price vehicles) move units.
Originally Posted by bdking57
The decked out car looks hot, but the pricing and power ratings are just bogus and I love how nissan just completely ignors the fact that the current corvette z06 is already superior to the porshe 911 turbo.. they are like, "lets just go after the second best car in the segment"..
With all due respect to the Z06...

When the pre-production faze of the GT-R was in the works, there was no Z06. Nissan said from the jumpoff the new GT-R (which was codenamed R35) was meant to target and take out the 911 Turbo, period. Even if the Z06 was out in the pre-production GT-R faze, Nissan really wouldn't give a care as there eyes are not set on a Chevy and never will be.
Originally Posted by bdking57
so is 530bhp really supposed to hang with the equally priced 220+mph corvette SS packing 650bhp and shipping right around the same date?
Again, Nissan target is not the Vette SS, nor will it ever be. They have always been focus on the 911 Turbo. Your comments don't surprise me seeing you own a z51, so lets just make this clear, the Nissan GT-R is not targeted, made to compete with the Z06 or any flavor of the Z0* series, so just drop it. Thanks.
Originally Posted by bdking57
JDM wet dream? seriously...so the GTR can run a 5 second faster time then a radical? 15sec faster then the carerra GT? and the 8th fastest time ever recorded at the burg right off the show rooms! wow sign me up! Try more like 7:50s. The 7:15 time is clearly about as accurate as the rest of the article.
@ attacking the article.

What ever make you sleep better at night. I will give more credit to the article than you who has made some very ill-fated comments about the GT-R in comparasion to the Z06.
Originally Posted by FastCoEVO
Why would they even attempt to compete with Chevy. SOme of you are IDIOTS.

The corvette is fast as all hell but it lacks the overall package the Porsche does. Id also rather have 530hp and awd, over 530hp and rear wheel drive.

The price is comparable to the Zo6, especially after dealer markups. It will be a contender, and it WILL sell.

Id give various parts of my anatomy for the new GTR

Godzilla is Coming.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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if its under 60K then its doable.. But I will not get it the first 2 years ... ima wait it out .. I got screwed by buying the evo in 03 and spent another 20k+ out of my own pocket to perfect it .. Will not do a repeat perofrmance with this car. Also while at the NYC auto show i was talking to the Nissan rep and he said first round will be limited to 1 per dealer ... guaranteed there will be a 15k markup
Old May 11, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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your slightly confused here... there is no markup on z06s... you can pick one up in the 60s and for that price you have a car that will beat this uber GTR for 35K more.. the corvette SS that will actually be of similiar price is in a completely different level of performance cars. I would not want a 530awd over 650rwd for the same price. factor in AWD drive train loss and the car is making more like 415awhp vs 555rwhp for the SS... then there is the factor of top speed.. having a car that can easily hit 200mph with any kind of space on the highway is ridiculous... for those reason and name recognition, this car will not be that popular in the USA with those that can actually afford it.

It will be intresting to see how nice the interior refinement on this car is... while the G35 interior is wonderful, the Z has something to be desired... as bad as a corvette interior is, its much better then the Z. Nissan is going to have to cut corners somewhere to bring this car out as the suggested prices.


This car looks sexy, no doubt about it... buts its a little over hyped. Nissan is doing a great job of maintaing the hype.

Originally Posted by FastCoEVO
Why would they even attempt to compete with Chevy. SOme of you are IDIOTS.

The corvette is fast as all hell but it lacks the overall package the Porsche does. Id also rather have 530hp and awd, over 530hp and rear wheel drive.

The price is comparable to the Zo6, especially after dealer markups. It will be a contender, and it WILL sell.

The NSX sold here for like 12 years. They never made it to sell like a Corvette. They sold every single one they ever made.

Id give various parts of my anatomy for the new GTR

Godzilla is Coming.

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Old May 11, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Strictly in terms of speed for the dollar, I'd have to agree with you. But for a total package, well, the 911 Turbo offers a lot of things the Z06 doesn't (or can't). I'm not sure I'd say it's the second best car in its segment, just the second fastest.
True... not correctly worded on my part. There is no way I would not take the porshe if given the chance to seize others, however since most of us work for a living and have limited income, price point is one of the most important factors. which is what has me rather confused.... somewhere Nissan is cutting corners (just like the vette) to produce this car at the prices being suggested.


Im hoping Nissan brings this car to lemans.. that would be amazing. I have to credit nissan with bringing such a bold car out...IMO they did what BMW was unwilling to do with the M3.

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Old May 11, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bdking57
your slightly confused here... there is no markup on z06s... you can pick one up in the 60s and for that price you have a car that will beat this uber GTR for 35K more.. the corvette SS that will actually be of similiar price is in a completely different level of performance cars. I would not want a 530awd over 650rwd for the same price. factor in AWD drive train loss and the car is making more like 415awhp vs 555rwhp for the SS... then there is the factor of top speed.. having a car that can easily hit 200mph with any kind of space on the highway is ridiculous... for those reason and name recognition, this car will not be that popular in the USA with those that can actually afford it.

It will be intresting to see how nice the interior refinement on this car is... while the G35 interior is wonderful, the Z has something to be desired... as bad as a corvette interior is, its much better then the Z. Nissan is going to have to cut corners somewhere to bring this car out as the suggested prices.


This car looks sexy, no doubt about it... buts its a little over hyped. Nissan is doing a great job of maintaing the hype.

Yes there is mark up on Zo6's. Maybe where YOU live there isint, but your not walking into any dealership here and buying one for sticker.

Also. The performance will be comparable to the Zo6, but who cares? Nissan wanted a Porsche killer. They wanted to make a car that handled as good, accelerated as good, drives as good, was as refined as the Porsche all for a cheaper price. They are targeting the premium car in the market. Its like someone else mentioned. There are FASTER cars, and there are BETTER cars.

Nissan is going after Porsches incredibly long, and incredibly great racing heritage. Porsche builds race cars, that drive wonderfully. ANyone who has ever driven one knows what I mean. We arent talking about a boxster here. id take a Gt3 over almost ANYTHING on the road today, and Id take the new GTR over everything except for the GT3. Thats only because Ive wanted a Porsche my whole life.
Old May 11, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Arithmetic
Ive study up on it extensively, articles, videos and the likes (never read any USDM magazines on them), but no, I never drove one. I know 3 guys that own one, ive seen them, sat in them... there are amazing looking, but something I could not see myself paying 90k for.
Ok, soooo you havent driven one? Lets just stop right there then.
Old May 11, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Old May 11, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Arithmetic
My Take: I laugh at some of yall that said Nissan couldn't price this car at 50k range, . I like the fact it comes in three different flavors with the top model GT-R Evo caring a beastly 530hp VQHRTT under it's bonnet
Don't laugh yet, because they haven't priced it in the $50k range yet. The same thing goes for the trim levels. Until you've seen any of this info in a Nissan US press release, don't even bother.


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Old May 11, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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HOLY CRAP!!!! I LIKE!!!!! and for all of you all saying the wing is obnoxious YOU DRIVE AN EVO!!!!! we live for obnoxious wings!!!! yall are just p/o'd that yall cant afford one that costs that much...lol......
Old May 11, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Ok, soooo you havent driven one? Lets just stop right there then
No, that's what Honda told dealership when they kill off the overprice NSX in 2005.
Old May 11, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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norcal doesnt have markups? They want 85K for GT500s in town. Anyone paying msrp or above is getting jacked. Just wait till you see the price tag that is put on the GTR.. I would expect the first in the region to sell above 100K...the markups on this car will be outta control. It would be unfortunate if it went the same way as the GT500. so if the general perception is that you will be able to get this car at an affordable price thats competitive to the porshe, well that is not determined yet... you might be paying more then the cost of a porshe turbo.


Originally Posted by FastCoEVO
Yes there is mark up on Zo6's. Maybe where YOU live there isint, but your not walking into any dealership here and buying one for sticker.

Also. The performance will be comparable to the Zo6, but who cares? Nissan wanted a Porsche killer. They wanted to make a car that handled as good, accelerated as good, drives as good, was as refined as the Porsche all for a cheaper price. They are targeting the premium car in the market. Its like someone else mentioned. There are FASTER cars, and there are BETTER cars.

Nissan is going after Porsches incredibly long, and incredibly great racing heritage. Porsche builds race cars, that drive wonderfully. ANyone who has ever driven one knows what I mean. We arent talking about a boxster here. id take a Gt3 over almost ANYTHING on the road today, and Id take the new GTR over everything except for the GT3. Thats only because Ive wanted a Porsche my whole life.

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Old May 11, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Wow. The GT-R Evo trim looks vicious.
Old May 11, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Looks nice besides the spoiler. Everyone talks about handling, but as soon as they come out, all everyone will want to do is race in a straight line with them. Which defeats the purpose of the car.



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