That should really come as no surprise to anyone, especially if they own an Evo. Look at all the threads on here talking about voided warranties and you'll see what I mean. The manufacturer is just making it easy to protect themselves... the GT-R has nearly 500hp and fancy computers so Nissan can SELL it. Once you plop the money down, you're on your own. Nissan doesn't want to support your track day budget.

To continue the GT-R bashing, anyone seen this yet? It's from the GT-R maintenance schedule supposedly.



You do the math.

 

anyone have the video of the ZR1 doing the Nurburgring?

I found this but the video is really small.

http://www.gmnext.com/Details/Videos...e-6143258dde28

 

i think you have to know how to utilize all the goodies on the GT-R to bring it out to the max potentials.
i bet they even used the R with all-season tires instead of the street high performance tires too lol.

 

I am sure both teams tried a bunch to get the fastest time they could so you are comparing both of the teams best times so that has no effect on it.

I am just saying if track temps were off by 10-20 degrees. Nissan tried right after a big event where alot of rubber was put down, different driver(Nissans guy could have been a much better drivier) all over the time of 8 minutes 25 seconds is easily doable.

Nissan could still be lying but 25 seconds with that amount of time per lap and a million different variables is hardly concrete evidence

 

Well if you guys recall, Motor Trend did a test with the Corvette Z06, the Porsche Turbo, and the GTR. Motor Trend did say that the GTR is much faster then both the Z06 and Porsche around the track.

Not just that, Top Gear with the Stig driving it, and 5 Gear with Bruno Senna tested it and it came out they the GTR is faster then the Porsche. So Nissan put racing compound in those car that the TV show tested?

However I like the wording of the Porsche guys. They never did say that the Nissan cheated. They just said that they don't understand how they got that time and what they've used to get that time.

Well Porsche have to be very careful with it's words because, if they Nissan cheated and they can't prove it, Nissan can sue them for defamation of characters.

 

Like i stated in the past. There needs to be an unbias third party running these tests. With Porsched picking someone that knows how to drive Porsches doesn't mean they know how to drive the GTR. Every car has it's own character and takes some time to master in order to get 100% out of it. Also a brand new engine is going to produce less power then one that has been properly broken in. I don't put any weight into Porsches statements. Especially for the money Porsches charges for there "performance cars", it should be running faster times then the Viper.

In the end, i don't buy this 25 second difference as legitimate. More like hot air from a lame company selling over priced VW's.

 

Isn't this considered at third Party Testing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWcv7Zp0H78 <-- Bruno Senna Driving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqwKJHJ-s5w

Even though it's not at the Nurburgring, but it's on the same track with the same driver.

Also, I don't think you can really compare the Porsche Twin Turbo to the ACR Viper. The ACR Viper is basically a Cup Car. Roll Cage, competition tires and everything.

 

The comparison is dollar for dollar. The Porsche is much slower and it costs considerably more then the Viper ACR. I'm sure Porsche can product a more race version, but how much do you think it'll cost? $200k-$300K.

No wonder Porsche is worried, people are catching on to their BS. $135K for an ill handling Turbo, give me a break.

 

actually of they tried the turbo automatic, it has a faster time than the manual.

 

I read somewhere that Nissan tested the Spec-V, not the standard GT-R. What Porsche tested was the US-Spec GT-R, I guess slower and much heavier than the Japanese Spec-V.

 

In that case, you can`t say that Nissan cheated. They said that their GTR did the Nurburgring in that time. They didn`t say if it was the regular GTR or the V-Spec. Pretty sly, but I guess thats marketing.

 

The V-Spec was hand timed by people around the track at ~7:24. The 'regular' GTR initially ran a 7:38 but the came back during better conditions and ran the 7:29. The GTR does come with two different tires, so maybe Porshce got the slower tire compound. Could have just been crappy conditions or a driver that was unable to extract the most out of the car.

Hell, 9 second difference between the times Nissan got itself.

Want more proof the GTR is the real deal? Check out Road & Track:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7074

A stock 911 Turbo ran 1:30.69 at SOW while a TechArt GTstreet, 630hp 911 turbo ran a 1:29.06.

The video shows the stock GTR running 1:30.43! And the Mine's GTR ran 1:25.79.

 

i think nissan has been hanging out with lol

 

Also i know the japanese versions of most cars have shorter catalytic converters, im sure that frees up some power, not to mention the possibility of a more agressive tune on the JDM version due to there higher octane gas.

also the fact porche said there car had regular tires and they think the GTR would need semi slick's to achieve the advertised time is BS because the tires on the porche where semi slicks (michilin pilot sport cups)!!

 

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