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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 03:49 AM
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Lancer 04 Ralliart vs. Mazda 04 Mazda3

Lancer 04 Ralliart or the Mazda 04 Mazda3? Which one do you prefer? Some say Ralliart is the bomb while others say that Mazda3 worth more than a 17k car. What does the majority think? Give me some opinion.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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The Mazda3 is worth more than 17k...oh trust me it's just awesome! Please go and test drive it, you will not be disappointed! The Ralliart looks nice, but the Mazda3 has better and more European styling to it...just go to a dealer and check it out!
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 05:40 AM
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Okay, here is what i think about Mazda. Most of the Mazda cars are crap (except for my favorite RX-7 and RX-8 models of course). The only reason i think the RX-7 and the RX-8 are nice because of the rotary engine they have and the nice stock turbo that gives off 238hp in a twin engine 1.3 (or 2.6) Litre. Thats damn nice.

But the Mazda 3 isnt bad. But i hate it when its fast but its a 4 door. Even Evos have 4 doors, what gives? But back to the main topic. Mazda 3's good point is that it is a DOHC, so its one cam per intake and exhaust. A pont for the Mazda3. But I dont really see the point of getting a Mazda 3. In where I live (vancouver, Canada) most of the people who are driving these Mazda 3's are like family people or fat ugly woman/man. I don't really want to drive a car that those types of people drives. I want something that is more "kids car" than like "graps car", you know?

Lancer is like a young kid car. With the "sporty" look and all, its good. But i must say Mazda 3 is also bang for the buck (also the fuel it uses is regular, which means easier on fuel money). Designs are okay, but I havent heard much from other companies making a lot for the Mazda3. Check if you can find anything bout the Mazda3 kits.

The Mazda3 is worth more than 17k...
Canada, the Mazda3's are cheaper than 17k. At least for the cheapest model with nothing added. heres how much it cost for each model of Mazda3's

Mazda 3 Prices (in CDN):
GX $16,195
GS $17,695
GT $21,345

If you really want Mazda3, get the GT cuz the GS is just bs....
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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http://autos.yahoo.com/compare/compa...=mini04coopers

The Mini is the lightest beating the SVT Focus by 75 lbs. The Lancer is the heavieast at 3050lbs. The Mazda3 (new Focus) is a really sharp looking car, a mazda - good resale value - gets great gas mileage - is *FUN* to drive (go to a road circuit or autocross to understand this) - and not too expensive.

Jesse - the RX8 has no super charged aspiration of any kind.

Super charged aspiration means forced induction - whether by turbo charging, supercharging, or any other type of mechanical pressurization of the intake charge.

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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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no super charger, but i think there was a turbo. Forgot cuz i get confuse with my friends RX-7 FC (infinity III). Cuz he got his turbo and stuff added so he got his 300hp car.

This is what i got from this site http://www.mitsubishicars.ca/MMSA/jsp/lancer/Specs.jsp

2.0L SOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder engine
Horsepower: 120 hp @ 5500 rpm
Torque: 130 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
(ES/LS/O•Z® Rally Models)

2.4L SOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder MIVEC engine
Horsepower: 160 hp @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 161 lb-ft @ 4000
(Sportback LS)
Horsepower: 162 hp @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 162 lb-ft @ 4000
(Ralliart Sedan/Sportback Ralliart)

Only Evos are DOHC, the others are SOHC
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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The RX8 is NA by the way no turbo.

I looked at and drove both cars yesterday, I prefered the Mazda over the Raliart. The interior was high quality in the 3 and the price factor option for option again favored the 3. The Raliart felt more powerful and handling was a wash. Tough call on this one you can't go wrong with either car.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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I dont see much aftermarket parts for Mazda3 than the 04 Lancers though
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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http://autos.yahoo.com/compare/compa...=mini04coopers

probably a better comparision (you cant compare a manual 3, and a auto wagon lancer like mister did.)
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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The more comparisons the better. not necesarily one comparison better than any other.

The non hatchback manual lancer does trim some pounds.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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I was into the Mazda3 but since I have seen the Ralliart--I can't stop thinking about it. Of course I haven't driven either yet.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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hmm, that yahoo, comparison was very interesting,
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Can someone please get the specs for an 04 Mazda3 GT and let me know the 1/4 mile time and 0-60 time please..

Thanks
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 04:40 AM
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under what the site i found (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t157591.html), this is what they say:

(All Timings are from a 160hp Mazda 3 I guess... which is the GT model)
0-60 Time: ~7.3s-7.5s
1/4 Mile Time: ~16.5s
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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This is the engine spec information for all the models of Mazda 3 and Lancer. All information is cited from the official sites of Mazda and Mitsubishi.

Mazda: Mazda 3
GX / GS
Engine Type: 2.0L DOHC 16-Valve
Displacement: 1999cc
Bore And Stroke: 87.5 x 83.1 mm
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Horsepower: 148 @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 135 lb. ft. @ 4500 rpm
Fuel System: Electronic Fuel Injection
Drive Train Type: FF
Redline: 6500 rpm
Fuel Requirement: Regular Unleaded

GT
Engine Type: 2.3L DOHC 16-Valve
Displacement: 2260cc
Bore And Stroke: 87.5 x 94.0 mm
Compression Ratio: 9.7:1
Horsepower: 160 @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 150 lb. ft. @ 4500 rpm
Fuel System: Electronic Fuel Injection
Drive Train Type: FF
Redline: 6500 rpm
Fuel Requirement: Regular Unleaded


Mitsubishi: Lancer
ES / LS / O.Z Rally
Engine Type: 2.0L SOHC 16-Valve
Displacement: 2000cc
Bore And Stroke: 81.5 x 95.8 mm
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Horsepower: 120 @ 5500 rpm
Torque: 130 @ 4250 rpm
Fuel System: Multi-Port Fuel Injection
Drive Train Type: FF
Redline: 6000 rpm
Fuel Requirement: Regular Unleaded

Ralliart / Sportback Ralliart
Engine Type: 2.4L MIVEC SOHC 16-Valve
Displacement: 2400cc
Bore And Stroke: 87.0 x 100.0 rpm
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Horsepower: 162 @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 162 @ 4000 rpm
Fuel System: Multi-Port Fuel Injection
Drive Train Type: FF
Redline: 6500 rpm
Fuel Requirement: Regular Unleaded

Sportback LS
Engine Type: 2.4L MIVEC SOHC 16-Valve
Displacement: 2400cc
Bore And Stroke: 87.0 x 100.0 rpm
Compression Ratio: 9.5:1
Horsepower: 160 @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 161 @ 4000 rpm
Fuel System: Multi-Port Fuel Injection
Drive Train Type: FF
Redline: 6500 rpm
Fuel Requirement: Regular Unleaded
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Hey guys with the Lancers what do you think or know about the strength of your internals. Anyone have any luck getting some good power out of the stock 2.0 or 2.4 yet. Sorry but i havent kept up much
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