39k is not bad. I wonder how much modification has to be done to the floor pan.

If I were to try a similar conversion I would probably just use the powertrain and suspension from an Evo 6 RS and get a custom length carbon fiber driveshaft.

 

4b11t is a better engine and the X drive train also better then a 6. and it is even more reliable.
the 9 would be a close call, but there is a good reason why they decided to build with X parts. So as why the X is mostly replacing the older versions. Many guys still running the older versions for one simple reason, they have tons of spare parts on the shelf vs the X when you need different part vs the earlier models. but even still many moved over and never looked back. For a good reason.
the X is not heavier when its rally ready then a IX. but has a better dimension and better more efficent engine for rally etc.

hence why in the PWRC they picked the X and not the IX. etc.

 

everyone here is so kind.

 

The Evo X is not that different from Evo IX or Evo V, in most aspects but the Motor- that is where its a big difference.
AND, although Evo X sports a more efficient head, for us without restrictors and homologation specifications limitations, having a strong OEM block like 4G63 is far far more stout than 4B11: unsupported liners require ERL steel liners etc.

Of course, for real rallying that is of no concern, as stock turbo and pump fuel are mandated and 4B11 will do it all day long for long without issue.

AYC in Evo X..it bolts into earlier Evos so as much as its better if building an earlier car one can use Evo X AYC..same as you can drop in an Evo IX AYC into EVO V.
One output flange is different on Evo X AYC diff..requires CV joint assembled from both original cars.

I do not know the transfer case and 5 speed on Evo X so not sure if major redesign took place.

Newer is better, so yes it makes more sense to build based on Evo X.
There is one such car in Chicago area for Rally America...its based on US Mirage to retain VIN!

I spoke to Ditko, they can custom tailor the car anyway you desire, and am sure that bringing them a US Mirage would be no problem to make it possible to bring back legally.
They source crashed Evo X so parts are assumed to be used already, and the final price around 40K Euro including Mirage with basic suspension/brakes is real.

Now, bolt on an EFR8374 to the Evo X motor, drop in some Reiger or other great suspension, and you can end up with a road rocket. At least an HKS 8262 turbo, or MHI6 turbo to get some more power on pump.

When investing that much into limited use sports car, its worth to finish it off with powerplant that will ensure total domination. Even if you cannot drive it at full chat, having the hammer avaiabile to silence any challenge would be awesome.

I presume that the Mirage body is mainly located onto the original Evo X chassis-floorpan/etc. I also think that the EvoX is shortened a little.
They do such a clean professional job that if you really want to have a car that looks as expensive as it really is, might as well give it to DItko to build.
With their pedigree eventually if it came time to sell, it would have certain value associated with professional build: unlike home-build.


But more realistically, Ford Focus is what we can do ourselves. We have no time nor most of us have the facilities and equipment to develop huge projects. Being able to buy a great car off the showroom floor and flog it in near stock form is the what these types of homologation cars, and ultra-sports hatches, are about.

I am quiet sure that no matter what, the new Focus will be fast enough: its simply impossible to drive any faster on road, and its a road car. However, knowing the car is brilliant does aid in the thrill, even if it does not make it any faster from A to B.


Brilliant chassis like Cayman, late model Boxster, really come alive on backroads. They deliver pleasure and simplify it for the driver by feeding back accurate and rich feedback, following drivers inputs, making driving intuitive and natural, rather than forcing a car with bad habits into submission.

 

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we dont use ayc in rally. the car has to be homologated, and only the RS comes with homologation. the GSR has to go through the homologation procedure,. Hence why the RS doesnt have AYC. The ayc was a main reason why they purposely made rules where the evo had to be either wrc or group N. and couldnt run AYC anymore... hence the first lancer WRC, after Tommy was unbeatable with a group A car.... We also using the revised IX oem rear lsd with a modified subframe to fit - straighten and raised the exhaust route.

my set up:





(IX rear diff cheap and easy to get)

 

and this is my older rally tune map on dyno dynamics with 104 blue sunoco, and 24 peak boost. with 34mm restrictor.

 

Is that steel tubular rear arms?
R4 or just custom rally?

On Evo X, is rear similarly to front, just longer arms?
To widen track under wider body.

I run Evo X front arms...
On TME when/if AYC diff goes I will install Evo X AYC diff.
It transfers more torque, so it may drive even more from the rear.

I know rally Evos are based on RS with mechanical LSD, somehow forgot that fact above.
Work takes most of brain cels these days, I overlook lots unrelated- including my dear Evo facts.

I am hoping that somebody in Poland/Slovakia/ceska will make R4 replica front and rear for CT9A.
Ultimate geometry I trust.

Can you post few pics of front suspension?
What dampeners do you use?

 

They look like OEM rear arms to me. The 10 has steel rear arms where the 7/8/9 have aluminum. (lower)

Evo 10 has a steel suspension arm /diff carrier as well, where the 7/8/9 is aluminum.

 

I know I'm the minority, but I LOVE instant power and torque. Power only from 5500-8000RPM does nothing for me (been there, done that).

 

my car except the coilovers and brakes changed everything else is full oem parts. only the rear frame got re modified so we can use the lsd and the exhaust route a way we like it.
even the bushings are still the 2008 oem which came with a car. acd transfere case you nsme it, front set up also. transmission also ( never opened) etc. it is unreal how stable and sturdy the X really is.

 

once you got used to the fact you only have 2500 rpm to utilize witb a crappy transition from 4th to 5th. the car is super quick and fun. dies out around 110 mph and just crawls from there. that is why i am super proud some of my hill climbs times vs other cars like a pro driver driven 2014 gt3 rolex racing porsche and they full racing set up etc. when i run over 3200lbs, sand springs / set up suspension, small brakes, 5 years old 225 rally medium tires (got forced to change them, they were as they said unsafe ) etc.

it is a true testament how capable the X really is. track numbers dont lie.

 

Yes! I love it. Makes me wanna build a rally car LOL
👍

 

the sound inside is the best!!! i dont even have a dog box or front lsd and i am super happy when i hear this:

http://youtu.be/g7X3UJPYCU4


and i dont care anything else. rally hill climbs are addicting. when i actually go to track i always wonder after how much i miss the adrenaline rush. build one run it, you will never look back.

 

Alpina, do you think that new Mirage G4/Attrage sedan would be better platform for Mirage Evo conversion and cheaper to make?