GTI, Golf R, Audi S3, MQB
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GTI, Golf R, Audi S3, MQB
This had been a long time coming, but I fought it for sentimental reasons for the last two years. I traded in my Evo a couple weeks ago, and I couldn't be happier.
Next year, I'll be halfway-to-ninety! My daily grind is real estate around Nashville, and the Evo was a poor realtor car. We got my wife a GTI this past March, and a funny thing started happening: Everytime I had to go somewhere, I found myself reaching for the keys to her car instead of mine. When given the prospect of dealing with mine or taking a relaxing trip with hers, it was a no-brainer.
Admittedly, at least 50% of that was my modifications. I'll never have a daily driven car with coilovers again. I think even the highest regarded ones make a car just suck. The Evo was paid off, and I heard the suggestion of getting a cheap beater more than once. But I didn't really want to spend more than $10k, and the prospect of driving around a 10k car when I have one that's worth $30k returned to stock and parted out seemed insane. Why drive a piece of crap and leave the good car in the garage? No, it was time for the Evolution to go.
After having and learning about the wife's GTI for a bit from the forums, I knew exactly what I wanted- A Golf R. It turned out this was no small task. VW is doing a mild chassis refresh on all Mk7 Golfs, and the R in particular is scarce. This was compounded by the fact that I have compromised on almost every single one of my prior car purchases: Wrong color, wrong options, etc. This time, I wanted a new 2017 Golf R DSG in Lapiz Blue- no other colors or manual transmission would do.
After much haggling, my local dealership was kind enough to locate one for me outside St. Louis, and bring it back, selling it at $2800 off, which was a total score!
Lets get the bad out of the way first: The handling and precision is a big step down.
But facing obvious facts, I haven't been on track since having kids 11 years ago, and I don't expect that to change over the next decade.
There's lots of good: **Way** more technology and safety, interior quality, a 50% increase in fuel economy, the utility of a hatchback, nice for clients, rockin' factory stereo and navigation, strong acceleration with just an ECU remap.
Next year, I'll be halfway-to-ninety! My daily grind is real estate around Nashville, and the Evo was a poor realtor car. We got my wife a GTI this past March, and a funny thing started happening: Everytime I had to go somewhere, I found myself reaching for the keys to her car instead of mine. When given the prospect of dealing with mine or taking a relaxing trip with hers, it was a no-brainer.
Admittedly, at least 50% of that was my modifications. I'll never have a daily driven car with coilovers again. I think even the highest regarded ones make a car just suck. The Evo was paid off, and I heard the suggestion of getting a cheap beater more than once. But I didn't really want to spend more than $10k, and the prospect of driving around a 10k car when I have one that's worth $30k returned to stock and parted out seemed insane. Why drive a piece of crap and leave the good car in the garage? No, it was time for the Evolution to go.
After having and learning about the wife's GTI for a bit from the forums, I knew exactly what I wanted- A Golf R. It turned out this was no small task. VW is doing a mild chassis refresh on all Mk7 Golfs, and the R in particular is scarce. This was compounded by the fact that I have compromised on almost every single one of my prior car purchases: Wrong color, wrong options, etc. This time, I wanted a new 2017 Golf R DSG in Lapiz Blue- no other colors or manual transmission would do.
After much haggling, my local dealership was kind enough to locate one for me outside St. Louis, and bring it back, selling it at $2800 off, which was a total score!
Lets get the bad out of the way first: The handling and precision is a big step down.
But facing obvious facts, I haven't been on track since having kids 11 years ago, and I don't expect that to change over the next decade.
There's lots of good: **Way** more technology and safety, interior quality, a 50% increase in fuel economy, the utility of a hatchback, nice for clients, rockin' factory stereo and navigation, strong acceleration with just an ECU remap.
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Noize (Aug 6, 2017)
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When you talk about the handling/precision, I assume you are comparing it to a stock Evo, right?
Congrats on the purchase. I always told myself that if my Evo were somehow totaled, I'd look into either a BRZ or a Golf R.
Congrats on the purchase. I always told myself that if my Evo were somehow totaled, I'd look into either a BRZ or a Golf R.
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Noize (Aug 7, 2017)
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A simple APR Stage 2 with a re-map and their down pipe you will be in the high 11s.
My problem with VW/Audi and maybe this applies to most brands today is that their diagnostics tools are set to look for ECU tampering. Their techs are trained to do it. If the diagnostic fails the ECU integrity check your claim is denied.
My problem with VW/Audi and maybe this applies to most brands today is that their diagnostics tools are set to look for ECU tampering. Their techs are trained to do it. If the diagnostic fails the ECU integrity check your claim is denied.
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A simple APR Stage 2 with a re-map and their down pipe you will be in the high 11s.
My problem with VW/Audi and maybe this applies to most brands today is that their diagnostics tools are set to look for ECU tampering. Their techs are trained to do it. If the diagnostic fails the ECU integrity check your claim is denied.
My problem with VW/Audi and maybe this applies to most brands today is that their diagnostics tools are set to look for ECU tampering. Their techs are trained to do it. If the diagnostic fails the ECU integrity check your claim is denied.
There are some pretty awesome modded cars the techs own at my local dealership. My advice is to get back there and get to know them.
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Noize (Aug 8, 2017)
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Thank you. I had the same feeling about EB, color totally reminds me of my EBIX.
Reason is because where I am in life. Coilovers are meant for a track. I expect they would be awesome there. But for the street, they are full of compromises.
I admit I wanted cool wheels which required lowering the car. But I didn't want to put springs on stock shocks, because it kills them within 6 months and they feel like crap. Revalve them? They get stiff, bounce, and feel like crap. Cheap coilovers feel like crap.
Now the Ohlins were way better. As long as the road is smooth as glass, they were nice. But expansion joints, ruts in the road, etc, FORGET IT. The car moves as one piece and you're airborne if you hit a bump at speed. I abhor that. And when I had my family or anyone for work in my car, they would always comment. Again, if it was a track car, I would totally deal with it and it would be worth it.
Pulling the Volks and Ohlins off to trade it in, on the way to the dealer I hit one of those expansion joints that I have to hit almost everyday. And on the stock suspension, the car took it fine and without drama. You could feel the suspension working independently, because OEM suspensions are tailor made to each model car, and the stock Evo suspension is really, really great for fun back roads, acceptable for commuting, and probably ok for track.
So while the Ohlins were the best, I'll never go back again.
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