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jrblackSE Jul 17, 2012 12:48 AM

Faust fraudulent buyer claiming damaged products and not returning the right wheel
 
I sold some clean Evo 9 BBS SE wheels to mr Faust back a couple months ago. He wanted the money refunded because they were damaged when the were not. So I cooperated and I refunded him the money so he would send my wheels back. But he only returns 3 and holds the 4th hostage until I send him the return shipping money which is a load of sugar IMO. But since I was out one beautiful wheel I had no choice but to do it through paypal. A month or more late I receive a wheel destroyed. My guess is he messed his wheel up and sent it back to me and left me out to dry. So I am not sure how to go about this because the last wheel I received is not the wheel I sent him in the first place and paypal can't to squat. So anyone aware of this man he is crooked and dangerous. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it as well. I just want my good wheel back ya know...

Thanks to anyone in advance
Justin Reaves
jrblackSE

Boost_Inspired Jul 17, 2012 03:36 AM

Man that sucks , people are always tryin to get over doing stuff like this. I wish I had some advice to give you but it seems like there may not be anything you can do. Did you happen to take pics of the wheels while they were in the boxes ?

FJF Jul 17, 2012 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by jrblackSE (Post 10284587)
I sold some clean Evo 9 BBS SE wheels to mr Faust back a couple months ago. He wanted the money refunded because they were damaged when the were not. So I cooperated and I refunded him the money so he would send my wheels back. But he only returns 3 and holds the 4th hostage until I send him the return shipping money which is a load of sugar IMO. But since I was out one beautiful wheel I had no choice but to do it through paypal. A month or more late I receive a wheel destroyed. My guess is he messed his wheel up and sent it back to me and left me out to dry. So I am not sure how to go about this because the last wheel I received is not the wheel I sent him in the first place and paypal can't to squat. So anyone aware of this man he is crooked and dangerous. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it as well. I just want my good wheel back ya know...

Thanks to anyone in advance
Justin Reaves
jrblackSE

It's extremely unfortunate that posts like yours are becoming more and more common. Just today I sent a total stranger a good chuck of change in a USPS MO for some audio gear. Could never do that here. :crap:

akeric Jul 20, 2012 02:00 AM

like craigslist says......avoid 99% of scams....deal local. I know its tempting to get a good deal on a part from a private seller but I'd rather have the piece of mind.

Also OP did you not insure the wheels when you shipped them? If you didn't you left yourself wide open. I would have told him to go screw himself if I knew I had sent him good wheels (as you KNOW you did), he has to prove to paypal or whatever that you sent him bunk crap, which is why you take pics of what you ship. If he didn't use paypal and just sent a MO or whatever then he's out of luck. Almost all scams are avoidable and I know hindsight is awesome but whatever you get the point.

Sorry you got burned.

jrblackSE Jul 20, 2012 04:36 PM

Paypal has no control when you deal through a credit card company. The credit card company has the first say. So he must have sent pictures of his wheel and then sent his wheel back to me because the wheel I got looked like it got rock blasted.

Faust Aug 25, 2012 07:32 AM

I have email communications and pictures to verify all claims. If anybody needs to see them to shut this BS claim thread down I will be more then happy to send them to you. For posting this thread after trying to scam me in the first place this guy needs a lifetime ban. My reputation is outstanding on this forum, always has been always will be.

mt057 Aug 25, 2012 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Faust (Post 10362007)
I have email communications and pictures to verify all claims. If anybody needs to see them to shut this BS claim thread down I will be more then happy to send them to you. For posting this thread after trying to scam me in the first place this guy needs a lifetime ban. My reputation is outstanding on this forum, always has been always will be.

Reputation means squat, others have already shown that. Both parties need to show proof. If not oh well, all we have is a bunch of he said she said crap and more people to avoid in the market place.

Iowa999 Aug 25, 2012 05:36 PM

Apply a little logic.

Ask yourself what the OP would gain from starting this thread. He clearly got no money from this and, if he really were a scammer, he would have zero reason to draw attention to the fact that he has a bad wheel. Kind of make it hard to scam someone else, eh?

Then ask yourself why the "buyer" would hold back the one bad wheel as the hostage for a refund of shipping. Makes no sense at all. You'd hold back one of the good wheels.

Without further evidence, I'm completely on the side of the OP.

EV0L-IX-MR Aug 25, 2012 05:42 PM

I could understand you being nice and wanting to help out but you just got screwed. If it was a few months ago there was nothing he could have done if that was the case he should have taken it up right away and also with PayPal but he was over the 30 days and took advantage of you.

mt057 Aug 25, 2012 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Iowa999 (Post 10362797)
Apply a little logic.

Ask yourself what the OP would gain from starting this thread. He clearly got no money from this and, if he really were a scammer, he would have zero reason to draw attention to the fact that he has a bad wheel. Kind of make it hard to scam someone else, eh?

Then ask yourself why the "buyer" would hold back the one bad wheel as the hostage for a refund of shipping. Makes no sense at all. You'd hold back one of the good wheels.

Without further evidence, I'm completely on the side of the OP.

I am with you Iowa999. Just curious to see what "evidence" there is.

I am also tired of people saying, "I never did it before". No one ever has until they do. That is a horrible argument.

EV0L-IX-MR Aug 25, 2012 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Faust (Post 10362007)
I have email communications and pictures to verify all claims. If anybody needs to see them to shut this BS claim thread down I will be more then happy to send them to you. For posting this thread after trying to scam me in the first place this guy needs a lifetime ban. My reputation is outstanding on this forum, always has been always will be.

Prove it.

boosted200ser Aug 25, 2012 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Iowa999 (Post 10362797)
Apply a little logic.

Ask yourself what the OP would gain from starting this thread. He clearly got no money from this and, if he really were a scammer, he would have zero reason to draw attention to the fact that he has a bad wheel. Kind of make it hard to scam someone else, eh?

Then ask yourself why the "buyer" would hold back the one bad wheel as the hostage for a refund of shipping. Makes no sense at all. You'd hold back one of the good wheels.

Without further evidence, I'm completely on the side of the OP.

The completion to this arguement is: Why hold back the bad wheel and ship the the good ones first?

05VIII Aug 25, 2012 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Iowa999 (Post 10362797)
Apply a little logic.

Ask yourself what the OP would gain from starting this thread. He clearly got no money from this and, if he really were a scammer, he would have zero reason to draw attention to the fact that he has a bad wheel. Kind of make it hard to scam someone else, eh?

Then ask yourself why the "buyer" would hold back the one bad wheel as the hostage for a refund of shipping. Makes no sense at all. You'd hold back one of the good wheels.

Without further evidence, I'm completely on the side of the OP.

nailed it.

ezzey Aug 25, 2012 09:59 PM

Well, not sure what you can do now, BUT for future i would have had the buyer send me pictures of the wheels that he "claimed" damaged, and if the picture that you'd receive showed a rim damaged in a way that the ones you sent didnt match up, i wouldnt have sent him a dime.

You know what, even ignore what i just wrote... If you sent him rims in GOOD condition, and he sends you an email stating they are "damaged" i would tell him to deal w/ the shipper (IF you indeed had insurance on it, AND better yet, pictures of rims in boxe's being sent).

Scammers... bunch of ****ing crooks

ezzey Aug 25, 2012 10:01 PM

The buyer had a bent rim,
found a sucker with the same set,
bought them,
claimed wheel's damaged,
kept a good one to replace his damaged rim,
sent back his old bent rim,

scammer wins

paypal 0
OP 0
Scammer 1

sad but true story


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