yeah two other cops told me the same thing. they are not required to show you the radar gun. in my case the cop said he clocked me 5 miles down the road goin 96 in a 70 up north to frisco. wen i was really only goin 84, and i saw him turn across the dirt divider in the road and turn around and turn on his lights. so i asked him to show me his radar gun and he said he didnt lock it. and i said arnt u supposed to be able to show it to me, and he was like well i didnt lock it u can come up and contest it if you want. well i couldnt make it up for the court date seing it was 3 hours away and they wouldnt transfer the case, so i did a write in contestment, they still made me pay 400 dollars including traffic school. bastards!

 

More accurately, it is called LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging).

 

Whoops misprint my mistake, thanks for the correction Smitty.

 

holy crap howd i get away wid it?!..... good information tho....i realy didnt know that

 

This is a great thread. I have a turbo back with cat and magnaflow, but the exhaust threat still bothers me to no end. I like the added power and fuel economy, and it helps alot on the track. Is there a concrete db rating we should meet?

 

Evo Police, you're freakin awsome. I hope I get pulled over by you if I'm in DC. lol Just kidding, I haven't been pulled over for 4 years for speeding.

Just curious but do those clear license plate covers deflect laser at all? And how long do you have to hold laser on a vehicle for it to register?

 

So Im guessing your an MD State Trooper? Cool. Im not know to the trooper family at all. But I am know to PG Police for "Driving in a manner to create excessive noise" Do you have to have a lawyer to request the dB meter in court? can you do it yourself? I got 2 of them tickets in 1 week. Then one in MO county

 

Stickin it to the man and selling wordless books........


hahah, good job man !!

 

Power to the People!!! This is a good precedent, and exactly how it should be. The STUPID law is so vague that the burden of proof should be on the prosecution! Well done!

 

It is really nice to have a cop on the forums who gives good advice as oposed to just *****ing at people for everything. also that he knows what he's talking about as opposed to 30 pages of posts with just some speculation. We appreciate seeing a friendly cop. thanks EVO_POLICE

 

I'm going to be fairly critical here, and I'm probably preaching to the choir ... but aren't you supposed to have a "tracking history" of what automobile was doing? History to me means a significant amount of time. RADAR and LIDAR records are good, but they don't mean a thing until that is coupled with a good set of notes, if a ticket was given out.

I really don't want to go into the physics and potential errors in LIDAR, and RADAR equipment, but its sufficient to say that the officer really has to be trained right, and execute right his common sense judgement when doing speed related road work.

Now with tickets in general, I believe speed should be about number ten in a list of more potential accident causing situations on the road. All the big numero unos are all related to driver attention ... and that's anything from cell-phone talking, to not signaling, to driving with little / no sleep is a bigger potential risk to my safety than going 15-20 over on a bright sunny day, perfectly dry, and no cars in front or behind me for 2 miles, on a 2-lane state road.

Sound issues with mufflers ... rates on the number 20 on my list. .

0.02,

jcnel.

 

Unfortunately, no. But there's a petition going around trying to get something like that passed.

 

Whats up all. I'm going to try and address some questions and points since the last time I was on this thread. I'm originally from Montgomery County. Went to Quince Orchard High School. Have loved speed and cars since I ever started driving! Went to college, then the Army, now I'm a police officer in DC for the past 7 1/2 years.

Ok one of you asked if the clear license plate covers block the red light camera and or speed camera. The answer is no if it is just the clear plastic. Now there is a clear over you can put in that has many vertical lines cut into the cover, kind of like a hologram. These are illegal, and most cops will ask you to remove it there presence. DC doesn't yet have a notice of infraction (fine) for this yet. Other states may.

When we come to court for a driver who is challenging the ticket for LIDAR, as an officer in DC, all we need to bring to court or have ready is are certification card that states we went thru a 40hr block of instruction, or an updated card showing are retraining. Really in court it's an officer word vs. your word. Really alot of the officer's who catch you with LIDAR are in court everyday, usually with the same judge. Now this doesn't mean he/she doesn't make mistakes. Usually, most people get off from errors on the ticket, weather it be Date, time month, even year. I lost a contested ticket about a month ago because I put down 2004 as the month!!
Your best bet for a speeding ticket is to take it to court, and try to get the fine redused and receive no points. In my experience all they usually do is clear the points but keep the fine right where it is. Government wants your money!!

 

Thank you for responding in such a factual and civil manner. I suppose the part that bothers me the most is wanting money ... and allowing a lot to slip through to do that. If we're trying to keep officers busy, I'd be all up (if it were justified) to having a extra 5 cents on my gas tax to keep the officers employed without having to do all the speed work ...

Again this comes from a feeling that there are certainly more substantial factors to driving proweress other than speed control. Also ... if "everybody speeds" doesn't that mean that our society also doesn't think speeding should be up on the high-priority list of executive duties?

Do I speed, yes, certainly ... do I ever drive under the speed limit? Yes also ... weather, traffic flow, car ability and equipment all play a part in this role.

Is anybody ever celebrated for avoiding an accident? Rarely. Are we incencivised to communicate more on the road? No ... we think that heavy high vehicles with limo tint are acceptable, as they run through red lights and about cream me on a motorbike.

Cheers,

jcnel.

 

I hear that. I had a baltimore county ticket one time and they gave me probation but increased my fine. That hurt.