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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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Are you stroked w/ upgraded turbo? (please read)

I am trying to decide on what turbo setup I want to go with on my car. The biggest thing is I don't want to waste money on a setup that won't work so I am asking if anyone has 2.3/2.4 stroker setup with an upgraded turbo. I would like to take a ride in your car and get firsthand impressions.

I will go to where ever you are and I will buy you lunch.

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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it might help if you let us know where your at?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Take a ride to ISP Racing. They can def make that project happen. You can use a 2.4 with 35R to have some street fun or use 2.4 on a 40R for some crazy top end. Call Peter in Beltsville M.D. 301-937-8008
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Take a ride to ISP Racing. They can def make that project happen. You can use a 2.4 with 35R to have some street fun or use 2.4 on a 40R for some crazy top end. Call Peter in Beltsville M.D. 301-937-8008

How does it feel with your new setup?

Did you go GT35 or GT40?

talk to ya later!
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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I am in Northern Virginia.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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I am trying to decide on what turbo setup I want to go with on my car. The biggest thing is I don't want to waste money on a setup that won't work so I am asking if anyone has 2.3/2.4 stroker setup with an upgraded turbo. I would like to take a ride in your car and get firsthand impressions.

I will go to where ever you are and I will buy you lunch.

Thanks,
NR
Are you sure you want to pursuit that route? I know a few guys in Phoenix that has fully built blocks with turbokits but their cars has been in the shop 350 days of the year due to mechanical failures.

This is all about the give/take game. A stock block with a nice upgrade turbo and supporting mods sometimes runs better than a stroker kit/turbokit.

Topnotchevo(Dre) for example spent in excess of $45000 on his 600whp plus Evo to only run a 11.2@125 in Phoenix, he ran thorugh transfer cases and other major internal failures.

Gaijin fro Phoenix ran 12.5@120 with 2.4 block and turbokit

On the other hand TTP engineering runs 11.2@122 with stock turbo, stock block and a hand full of bolt ons .

Dragnracing(Travor) also runs low 11's and traps120's with just a stock block and a 20G turbo.

I am not trying to remark the people with their sucess or what not but I am saying think about it very well, the final results could be dissapointing not necessarily performance wise but in other aspects like maintenance(clutches/transfer cases), driveability(power band, spool up) practicality (having to run with race gas all the time) other wise a turbokit wouldn't run it full capacity with just 91oct which defeat the purpose of having a turbokit.

Look Abner's car (Slowevo), 2.4 block in pieces at the dealer. Just to many people I personally know that had many many costly issues. Think about it.


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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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I already have the 2.3l so that isn't a question anymore. The thing is I am deciding which turbo kit I need to go with. I don't drag race so that's not an issue and my passion is open track days. My 2.3 is awesome thus far and I love the power it puts down. As it stands it can take 600hp reliably and I don't ever plan to get close to that power mark. I want a really fun and reliable 400hp with room to grow.

I am thinking about a 50trim or 3076 right now but I figured that I could get rides in cars that already have the upgrades and I can get a feel for it.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Are you sure you want to pursuit that route? I know a few guys in Phoenix that has fully built blocks with turbokits but their cars has been in the shop 350 days of the year due to mechanical failures.

This is all about the give/take game. A stock block with a nice upgrade turbo and supporting mods sometimes runs better than a stroker kit/turbokit.

Topnotchevo(Dre) for example spent in excess of $45000 on his 600whp plus Evo to only run a 11.2@125 in Phoenix, he ran thorugh transfer cases and other major internal failures.

Gaijin fro Phoenix ran 12.5@120 with 2.4 block and turbokit

On the other hand TTP engineering runs 11.2@122 with stock turbo, stock block and a hand full of bolt ons .

Dragnracing(Travor) also runs low 11's and traps120's with just a stock block and a 20G turbo.

I am not trying to remark the people with their sucess or what not but I am saying think about it very well, the final results could be dissapointing not necessarily performance wise but in other aspects like maintenance(clutches/transfer cases), driveability(power band, spool up) practicality (having to run with race gas all the time) other wise a turbokit wouldn't run it full capacity with just 91oct which defeat the purpose of having a turbokit.

Look Abner's car (Slowevo), 2.4 block in pieces at the dealer. Just to many people I personally know that had many many costly issues. Think about it.


Carlos


Dude i completly agree with you man, most of the time if you build a motor, your gona have some serious problems, why? because not ever body thats builds motors know 100% the perfect way/has the greatest machine work.... its all in the machine work, and bearing/clearences, if that isn't correct to the T well have a nice day cause it might be cool for a 1000-or even 5000mile then start making some real power and bang, poooof, blaw, omg a rod came through the block....hahha happens everyday to someone probly, my advice,
run a stock bottem end until it gives, then build it...

Im my way of thinkin this would be the ultimate set up:
Stock bottemend
built head
shep trans
shep T-case
AEM EMS {speed density} no maf
255 f-pump
1000cc injectors
SHearer 50 trim [because it spools by 3200rpms}+450whp range on pump
280 cams
AMS fmic + pipin
mini battery
Carbon fiber drive shaft{because it takes alot of drivetrain shock away from t-case
light wheels+ brakes
no steel bumpers [because of wieght}
RPS street single disc clutch {because its very streetable}
THEn CLICK YOU HEELS THREE TIMES, AND PRAY FOR A MONTH THEn FIRE IT UP
AND WLCOME TO THE DARKSIDE, you now have a EXTREMELY drivable,powerfull
low 11sec car that SHOULD hold togather for a few days...HAha a while i'd hope
and the car should spool quick be fun to drive and its perfect.... hey i just roughly add the cost of that build in my head, its still rough $12000+ mis extra $3000 in dumn stuff, so $15,000 wow huh New point {EVO'S R ,BOTTEMLESS MONEY PITTS}

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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EVO8URPRIDE,


Everyone here loves to have a fast powerful Evo. The reality is that for the most part the big power Evos are own by shops(AMS,Buschur,Dynoflash,Turbotrix,etc) there are a few others privately owned that their owners are brave enough to built those cars and also have the money to back them up.

For the rest of us(majority) we have to settle with other options. Mi priority is reliability first, I want to drive my car everyday on pump gas.

The originator of this topic already has a 2.3l block. I would suggest he gets a decent size stock turbo replacement, a Evo 9 20G either 5 or 6 blade would be perfect for this aplication. The bigger displacement would eliminate the lack of spool up.

Additionally he could add a methanol kit and maximize the Evo 9 20g turbo. The options here are endless. I think he should get just a replacement bigger turbo with oem fitting and he wouldn't regret.

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
I would suggest he gets a decent size stock turbo replacement, a Evo 9 20G either 5 or 6 blade would be perfect for this aplication. The bigger displacement would eliminate the lack of spool up.

Additionally he could add a methanol kit and maximize the Evo 9 20g turbo. The options here are endless. I think he should get just a replacement bigger turbo with oem fitting and he wouldn't regret.
First off, I want to run pump only. No meth and no race gas.

Second, the 20G is a waste of money. The power to dollar ratio is way off with that turbo.

I would love to get a ride in a 50trim powered stroker but I know that is way to specific. The 50 trim is a pump gas beast and I think it would be perfect for my requirements (or maybe a 3076?)

I am a road racer and I love response and low end grunt. Top end is cool for impressing people on the straights but I have killed way too many Supras on track that were topend monsters but had no control over their power in the tight corners.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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^ Yeah all the talk about built cars being unreliable is ****, it is all in the preparation, build, and break in.... I have a 3076 on my 2.3 and love it, if you are going with an upgraded turbo as you said the 20g is not worth it, 50 trim or 3076 will be your best options, I made my car setup for exactly what you are talking about/wanting to do.

Scorke
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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How about you fill up my evo with a full tank of C-16 and ill take you around the corner very fast
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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How about you fill up my evo with a full tank of C-16 and ill take you around the corner very fast
West Palm Beach is a bit far for me
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Hey Bakari,

I am still in the breaking in period.. I am going to Buschur on 24th for JUN cam upgrade and once I get back, we can definetely meet up for a ride
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nrcooled
I am trying to decide on what turbo setup I want to go with on my car. The biggest thing is I don't want to waste money on a setup that won't work so I am asking if anyone has 2.3/2.4 stroker setup with an upgraded turbo. I would like to take a ride in your car and get firsthand impressions.

I will go to where ever you are and I will buy you lunch.

Thanks,
NR

I told you already Fill my tank with C-16 and ill take you around the corner really fast , where are you located ?
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