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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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Espelir springs from Mackin (Volk)

These are new Espelir super down springs from Mackin. Noticably stiffer and flatter roll than stock, but no bottoming into the bump stops while cornering (so far). I'll track test in a few weeks. Note also the new 2.75' gram lights exhaust.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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Nice.. It does look low in the picture. Do you have one looking from the front?


It appears your car sits more evenly now.. Eibachs are known for dropping the rear more than the front. I rather have it completely level or slightly lower in the front.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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Whats the actual numbers on the drop. Also how much? Ditto on more pictures request. Thx in advance.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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Do you have any specs on spring rates? Are these linear or progressive springs?

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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more pics and info on both the springs and the exhaust...
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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It’s supposed to be about a 20-30% increase in spring rate, w/blue powder coat. From the photo I saw (didn’t see or measure them before they were installed) they're progressive - I wouldn't want linear with these rates, especially over the small bumps which you feel more. The stock shocks seem to have enough damping for hard road driving- auto-xing may be a different story. Looking at the rockers the car tilts slightly down toward the front, just like the pic. I’ll take more pics from the side later.
Espelir had some preliminary springs that were the same ht. but didn’t have enough of a rate increase. These production model are definitely stiffer than stock, but not uncomfortable. Until I talk to them, you can also contact Mackin; (562) 944-7719 Steve Lim, slim@mackinindustries.com. They took car ht. measurements before and after and have the pricing and availability info.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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more pics and info on both the springs and the exhaust...
I'll post more spring pics later, but here's some of the gram lights exhaust
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:54 AM
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more pics and info on both the springs and the exhaust...
Dyno sheet to come.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 02:16 AM
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that exhaust is ****in sweet... hows the sound...?

and is it a catback...?

how much...? or this this just a pre-production model...?
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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Nice.. It does look low in the picture. Do you have one looking from the front?


It appears your car sits more evenly now.. Eibachs are known for dropping the rear more than the front. I rather have it completely level or slightly lower in the front.
Here's a front pic, notice that it would hit the low curb now.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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Nice.. It does look low in the picture. Do you have one looking from the front?


It appears your car sits more evenly now.. Eibachs are known for dropping the rear more than the front. I rather have it completely level or slightly lower in the front.
Side - note that it is raked down in front.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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Nice job.. Clearly the best I have seen.. and I like the fact that the rates are slightly higher than stock.

I know the Tein rates are extremely low..
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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You're right..the front is lower. But check this out, notice how the bottom of the front bumper is lower then the rear bumper.. now look at the wheel arches, the front is pulled so high even a spring with a front rake still makes the car look like the back is lower.

I think the springs look good - but we are stuck with a car that will always appear lower in the back.
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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 02:12 AM
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what is the measurement from the center of your wheel to the fender...?

On mine with the Eibachs it about 15.5" front & 14.5" rear...? if i recall correctly... but i'll remeasure it tomorrow...

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Diesel,

When did you get the wheels? They look sweet. What are the specs? How much did they run you? I am assuming that they are the LE37's.
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