MR's throttle delay, need answers
MR's throttle delay, need answers
now i know this is a hotly debated topic. i've read alot of the threads, but they end up in a pissing match between people who own throttle controllers and those who think they're stupid.
imaging this scenario in the MR (i don't have to imagine because i live it everyday lol) :
i'm in 1st gear as i'm stopped at the intersection waiting to turn left. i see a car comming, but think i have enough time to make the turn.
so i press the gas a little harder than usual, maybe 1/2 way, thinking i'll get some good acceleration off the line and beat the on comming car. but i literally get like a .5-1 sec lag where it just sort of putters into the turn. it's now too late to stop as i'm in the other car's way. i panic and mash the pedal all the way. after another .1 sec delay, my car goes WOT and takes off.
now i believe a throttle controller could help with this as many owners have attested to. but the makers themselves and "anti throttle controller" peeps claim it makes no difference to 0-60 times. what i don't know is whether they taking brake boosting into the equation during hard launches for drag racing...
if it does alleviate this "hit the pedal, nothing happens for .5sec" problem like alot of owners say it does, i don't see how it couldn't improve a 0-60 time when not brake boosting...like when just casually accelerating off the line at a light.
if the throttle response comes faster with a TC, how are you not getting off the line faster, therefore improving your 0-60 time? again, not brake boosting, but simply pedal to the metal from a full
Also, there's a mention in an article for the FQ330-SST that it does not exhibit this problem. did they remap the TCU/ECU?
i'd really like to know
imaging this scenario in the MR (i don't have to imagine because i live it everyday lol) :
i'm in 1st gear as i'm stopped at the intersection waiting to turn left. i see a car comming, but think i have enough time to make the turn.
so i press the gas a little harder than usual, maybe 1/2 way, thinking i'll get some good acceleration off the line and beat the on comming car. but i literally get like a .5-1 sec lag where it just sort of putters into the turn. it's now too late to stop as i'm in the other car's way. i panic and mash the pedal all the way. after another .1 sec delay, my car goes WOT and takes off.
now i believe a throttle controller could help with this as many owners have attested to. but the makers themselves and "anti throttle controller" peeps claim it makes no difference to 0-60 times. what i don't know is whether they taking brake boosting into the equation during hard launches for drag racing...
if it does alleviate this "hit the pedal, nothing happens for .5sec" problem like alot of owners say it does, i don't see how it couldn't improve a 0-60 time when not brake boosting...like when just casually accelerating off the line at a light.
if the throttle response comes faster with a TC, how are you not getting off the line faster, therefore improving your 0-60 time? again, not brake boosting, but simply pedal to the metal from a full
Also, there's a mention in an article for the FQ330-SST that it does not exhibit this problem. did they remap the TCU/ECU?
i'd really like to know
I use a TC and it does eliminate the throttle lag, but I have a GSR. 0-60 times technically will be the same but without the delay. Just think of it as having a cable throttle body. For about $200 (or so) you can get the D1 Throttle Controller; it's an easy install and comes with good instructions. I highly recommend it especially with the MR.
Edit: Since 0-60 mph times are the same, I would ASSUME 0-60 ft times would be slightly better. I've never tested it myself or have heard much about that.
Edit: Since 0-60 mph times are the same, I would ASSUME 0-60 ft times would be slightly better. I've never tested it myself or have heard much about that.
Last edited by El_Kameleon_G; May 26, 2010 at 12:48 PM. Reason: Additional info
vassili let me know what you find. mines been doing this too. it also blinks on the shifter console when its in reverse and will not go into gear. i thought it was just my transmission. i was going to have my mr serviced/warrantied. other evo owners told me i needed more and/or correct fluids. ive had similar run ins with on coming traffic and now i just stomp the gas.
sorry, i'm new to these "throttle controllers"... how do they work?
yeah, trying to get into traffic from a stop really sucks--there's no power until the car hits ~3k rpm. but i always attributed that to turbo lag. how does the throttle controller help?
perhaps one way to get that instant speed needed is to preload with one foot on the brake, kinda like a pseudo launch mode. of course, that's probably not so good for the clutch mechanisms of sst.
yeah, trying to get into traffic from a stop really sucks--there's no power until the car hits ~3k rpm. but i always attributed that to turbo lag. how does the throttle controller help?
perhaps one way to get that instant speed needed is to preload with one foot on the brake, kinda like a pseudo launch mode. of course, that's probably not so good for the clutch mechanisms of sst.
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now i know this is a hotly debated topic. i've read alot of the threads, but they end up in a pissing match between people who own throttle controllers and those who think they're stupid.
imaging this scenario in the MR (i don't have to imagine because i live it everyday lol) :
i'm in 1st gear as i'm stopped at the intersection waiting to turn left. i see a car comming, but think i have enough time to make the turn.
so i press the gas a little harder than usual, maybe 1/2 way, thinking i'll get some good acceleration off the line and beat the on comming car. but i literally get like a .5-1 sec lag where it just sort of putters into the turn. it's now too late to stop as i'm in the other car's way. i panic and mash the pedal all the way. after another .1 sec delay, my car goes WOT and takes off.
now i believe a throttle controller could help with this as many owners have attested to. but the makers themselves and "anti throttle controller" peeps claim it makes no difference to 0-60 times. what i don't know is whether they taking brake boosting into the equation during hard launches for drag racing...
if it does alleviate this "hit the pedal, nothing happens for .5sec" problem like alot of owners say it does, i don't see how it couldn't improve a 0-60 time when not brake boosting...like when just casually accelerating off the line at a light.
if the throttle response comes faster with a TC, how are you not getting off the line faster, therefore improving your 0-60 time? again, not brake boosting, but simply pedal to the metal from a full
Also, there's a mention in an article for the FQ330-SST that it does not exhibit this problem. did they remap the TCU/ECU?
i'd really like to know
imaging this scenario in the MR (i don't have to imagine because i live it everyday lol) :
i'm in 1st gear as i'm stopped at the intersection waiting to turn left. i see a car comming, but think i have enough time to make the turn.
so i press the gas a little harder than usual, maybe 1/2 way, thinking i'll get some good acceleration off the line and beat the on comming car. but i literally get like a .5-1 sec lag where it just sort of putters into the turn. it's now too late to stop as i'm in the other car's way. i panic and mash the pedal all the way. after another .1 sec delay, my car goes WOT and takes off.
now i believe a throttle controller could help with this as many owners have attested to. but the makers themselves and "anti throttle controller" peeps claim it makes no difference to 0-60 times. what i don't know is whether they taking brake boosting into the equation during hard launches for drag racing...
if it does alleviate this "hit the pedal, nothing happens for .5sec" problem like alot of owners say it does, i don't see how it couldn't improve a 0-60 time when not brake boosting...like when just casually accelerating off the line at a light.
if the throttle response comes faster with a TC, how are you not getting off the line faster, therefore improving your 0-60 time? again, not brake boosting, but simply pedal to the metal from a full
Also, there's a mention in an article for the FQ330-SST that it does not exhibit this problem. did they remap the TCU/ECU?
i'd really like to know
How bout this. Do you live in Toronto.
If and i mean if i ma strong enough, and i can unhook mine from my car (sprintbooster) you can give it a try. lol its just a pain in the but to pull out. but it will color your world
My car is uber laggy in 1st gear, and can tell my throttle is being limited (very heavily). Its frustrating sometimes, especially when pulling out into traffic. I usually end up putting it into S-Sport just help compensate, but even then its still laggy...



