Ideal track setup?
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Originally Posted by feldguy
I have noticed quite a few of the tougher evos with canards on the front bumpper and a front lip to aid in downforce, as well as a good front bumper and larger intercooler and radiator setup to aid in cooling. My ideal setup would be:
Tein RA's with appropriate strut towers and braces by Cusco.
A good clutch, when necessary.
Upgrade all your plumbing, exhaust, intercooler and hoses connecting.
Bigger I/C and aluminum Radiator
Gut the car, full cage (you're on it already)
ARP rod bolts, head studs and a nice headgasket.
JIC header, you've already got the turbo us 03-04 guys want
O2 housing
As many carbon parts as you can afford, preferably on the nose of the car to shift its weight balance to the rear a bit more.
Certain things like a good fuel pump and injectors, with a good tune are definitely necessary to support the mods, but I like to do my stuff in blocks. Engine. Then turbo. Then Body. Then suspension. Not necessarily in that order, but you get the idea. Good luck, and post some videos!
Tein RA's with appropriate strut towers and braces by Cusco.
A good clutch, when necessary.
Upgrade all your plumbing, exhaust, intercooler and hoses connecting.
Bigger I/C and aluminum Radiator
Gut the car, full cage (you're on it already)
ARP rod bolts, head studs and a nice headgasket.
JIC header, you've already got the turbo us 03-04 guys want
O2 housing
As many carbon parts as you can afford, preferably on the nose of the car to shift its weight balance to the rear a bit more.
Certain things like a good fuel pump and injectors, with a good tune are definitely necessary to support the mods, but I like to do my stuff in blocks. Engine. Then turbo. Then Body. Then suspension. Not necessarily in that order, but you get the idea. Good luck, and post some videos!
-Steve
Originally Posted by Scot
you are putting a rollcage in there if you are putting a harness bar and harnesses in????
With as many times as you have been to the track you should just buy a race car. HPDE crap gets old doesn't it? What is the purpose of dumping piles of $ into an Evo to run it at HPDE's with people who generally suck at driving?
So...how did you & your business partner get out of the Psuedo Lemon'd Gt2?
With as many times as you have been to the track you should just buy a race car. HPDE crap gets old doesn't it? What is the purpose of dumping piles of $ into an Evo to run it at HPDE's with people who generally suck at driving?
So...how did you & your business partner get out of the Psuedo Lemon'd Gt2?
That's a judgemental mouth full.....there are a lot of HPDE drivers in CA. that are VERY good drivers. There are also other opportunities to drive comptetively w/o wheel to wheel racing, ie time trials and time attack in HPDE 4 in NASA, or in similar categories in other groups or sanctioning bodies. So, it depends on his goals. I do not plan to race wheel to wheel, but want to become a very good time trialist, and am working on preparing the car to handle, as well as being as safe as possible. Some folks might think I'm a geek when I show up for HPDE's this spring with a rollbar, harness and Nomex suit, but better safe than sorry when I'm pushing to the best of my ability.
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What you may also find is there are alot of folks who participate in DE's that 'could of' been something in motorsports. I happen to know a guy right now who walked away from F1 and McLaren to go to school. He is a 'very' good friend of mine. DE's are fun, and allow for commorodery before, during, and after the event.
Originally Posted by hagakure
Some folks might think I'm a geek when I show up for HPDE's this spring with a rollbar, harness and Nomex suit, but better safe than sorry when I'm pushing to the best of my ability.
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Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak
What you may also find is there are alot of folks who participate in DE's that 'could of' been something in motorsports. I happen to know a guy right now who walked away from F1 and McLaren to go to school. He is a 'very' good friend of mine. DE's are fun, and allow for commorodery before, during, and after the event.
In one case, a friend had one of these guys "check out" his current track M3 (former race car - fully caged and preped) because it didn't seem quite right. The guy ripped out some really fast laps (all about 5 sec/lap faster than my friends times) and then came back with some suggestions for improving the car's suspension set-up. The test driver is someone who's driven professionally for BMW before (and still races), and the changes really improved my friends car.
I would like to drop in my 2 cents..
It all depends on the track but sometimes Endless brake pads w/ stock brembos would suffice.
Or you could always run the endless big brake kit.. I've seen alot of aftermarket tuner companies run endless pads and it has been tried and true. In japan they are one of the biggest companies out there. I wish that the people in america could realize that
in terms of tracking the car w/ coilover the Zeal super Function R is very very well built. And with the support in the us it is something to look forward to. From what i hear endless is very supportive of track guys. So give them a look.
Also w/ the ferrodo's they are pretty good as well. Just hope you have fun...
It all depends on the track but sometimes Endless brake pads w/ stock brembos would suffice.
Or you could always run the endless big brake kit.. I've seen alot of aftermarket tuner companies run endless pads and it has been tried and true. In japan they are one of the biggest companies out there. I wish that the people in america could realize that
in terms of tracking the car w/ coilover the Zeal super Function R is very very well built. And with the support in the us it is something to look forward to. From what i hear endless is very supportive of track guys. So give them a look.
Also w/ the ferrodo's they are pretty good as well. Just hope you have fun...
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Hey there,
Be sure to visit socalevo.net. there's several of us over there that are real active in road racing, myself included.
I'll be at Willow next weekend. If you go, stop by the Hartman garage to say "hi".
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Be sure to visit socalevo.net. there's several of us over there that are real active in road racing, myself included.
I'll be at Willow next weekend. If you go, stop by the Hartman garage to say "hi".
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Originally Posted by offroadr35
And then, if we mess up the car at all (like i did to the Elise on monday unfortunately) it's not a major f-up.
My question: why mess around with road cars? Your sig says you have a truck, so why not tow a non-street car to the track? Might meet your objective a hell of a lot easier and perhaps even less expensively...
Just a thought. If I were you and I thought I had a lot of experience, I'd be looking at a Radical, or Star Mazda or something like that though if you're planning on going off track again sometime soon, they can be prohibitively expensive ;-).
But, seriously, there are so many awesome vehicles out there that you can't use on the road... I'd pick one of those if I was building a track-only car.
- John
p.s. I often see a guy at the track who tows his Star Mazda to the track with a normal Subaru Outback. How cool is that!
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Originally Posted by John H
Hmm, so you're the orange Elise they're talking about that's at Newport Euro getting repaired after hitting a wall at Buttonwillow. Hope you weren't hurt..
My question: why mess around with road cars? Your sig says you have a truck, so why not tow a non-street car to the track? Might meet your objective a hell of a lot easier and perhaps even less expensively...
Just a thought. If I were you and I thought I had a lot of experience, I'd be looking at a Radical, or Star Mazda or something like that though if you're planning on going off track again sometime soon, they can be prohibitively expensive ;-).
But, seriously, there are so many awesome vehicles out there that you can't use on the road... I'd pick one of those if I was building a track-only car.
- John
p.s. I often see a guy at the track who tows his Star Mazda to the track with a normal Subaru Outback. How cool is that!
My question: why mess around with road cars? Your sig says you have a truck, so why not tow a non-street car to the track? Might meet your objective a hell of a lot easier and perhaps even less expensively...
Just a thought. If I were you and I thought I had a lot of experience, I'd be looking at a Radical, or Star Mazda or something like that though if you're planning on going off track again sometime soon, they can be prohibitively expensive ;-).
But, seriously, there are so many awesome vehicles out there that you can't use on the road... I'd pick one of those if I was building a track-only car.
- John
p.s. I often see a guy at the track who tows his Star Mazda to the track with a normal Subaru Outback. How cool is that!
The EVO is well under way. it looks like the whole thing will probably cost around $23k. The engine and brakes are done now. Next up is rollcage, suspension and other little bits. I'll post a full rundown when it's done.
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Originally Posted by John H
My question: why mess around with road cars? Your sig says you have a truck, so why not tow a non-street car to the track? Might meet your objective a hell of a lot easier and perhaps even less expensively...
Just a thought. If I were you and I thought I had a lot of experience, I'd be looking at a Radical, or Star Mazda or something like that..
Just a thought. If I were you and I thought I had a lot of experience, I'd be looking at a Radical, or Star Mazda or something like that..
Eventually I decided that I'll be looking for a good used Radical (or possibly a Stohr) in a year or two (after the new Radical V8's are making their presence known) for track only use. That way if I end up with a hard off, I haven't hurt my Evo.
The only problem with Radicals is that the engine has a short life and needs rebuilding fairly frequently -- Otherwise a lot of fun! I too am interested in the V8. I am hoping that the price comes down a little though 