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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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my mods now are tbe with no cat, mbc at 23 psi, stock bilsteins with works mr specific springs, and a tune. I plan on doing cams and ported exhaust mani and o2 housing soon. With all of these mods what class would i race in? Also is this a decent suspension to just start out with and get a feel for my car and the track? Does anybody else race on the works springs? Im over seas right now and im just trying to learn all i can about road racing, autocross, time trial events that i can. I just ordered 4 books from barnes and nobles about autocross and road racing. I have no clue as too the differences between them all besides the obvious. Im just looking for a little bit of beginners advice. Are all the classes the same for auto cross and roadracing?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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I compete in autocross (and yes I have WORKs springs). Attached is a small chart. Look at the mods you have and line up where everything says "Yes". Those are the classes you can run in. I have to run in STX because I bought some track wheels that are an inch wider. A lot of the other mods I can have in STX I dont have

As for track, I am looking to get into it as well, but before I do anything I am signed up for a few performance driving schools to give me some beginner time on a track. I think that would be your best bet as well. Dont go directly into timed competition where you'll make a total fool of yourself To find performance driving schools you can check SCCA or high end car clubs in your area. Also just check the track websites. Usually their schedules have links to things as well.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wartownracer
my mods now are tbe with no cat, mbc at 23 psi, stock bilsteins with works mr specific springs, and a tune. I plan on doing cams and ported exhaust mani and o2 housing soon. With all of these mods what class would i race in? Also is this a decent suspension to just start out with and get a feel for my car and the track? Does anybody else race on the works springs? Im over seas right now and im just trying to learn all i can about road racing, autocross, time trial events that i can. I just ordered 4 books from barnes and nobles about autocross and road racing. I have no clue as too the differences between them all besides the obvious. Im just looking for a little bit of beginners advice. Are all the classes the same for auto cross and roadracing?
Is this a joke?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Is this a joke?
With a paragraph like that.... you bet it is!
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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With a paragraph like that.... you bet it is!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=320389
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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you would be in sm in autox because of the cams. if you are serious about racing and want to go fast, the hp doesnt help that much, get a good set of wheels and tires and after that get good coilovers.

i would say if you want to get serious, get some 18x9.5's w/ a 285/30 of your choice (autox get kumho v710's or hoosier a6) (road racing get yokohama a048, Nitto nt01, hoosier r6, bfg r1, etc.)

after doing this, invest in a nice set of coilovers. i would totally reccomend some ohlins or if you have the $$$ some nice motons but for what you are doing i would get some ohlins single adjustables.

you will be fine on what you have now, but some new wheels and tires will make you really enjoy it.

oh yah and for road racing, i strongly reccomend some track pads. the least you can do is get new brake fluid (motul), ss lines, and some good pads (ferodo 2500's porterfield r4s, etc) but these will still fade fast, i would say for road racing get a set of deticated track pads like hawk dtc70's and switch at the track
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Why are you linking me to that thread? I wasnt the one who started this thread lol. I was just messing with you by saying i doubt some1 who spent that much time posting about something like that would make it joke
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wartownracer
my mods now are tbe with no cat, mbc at 23 psi, stock bilsteins with works mr specific springs, and a tune. I plan on doing cams and ported exhaust mani and o2 housing soon. With all of these mods what class would i race in? Also is this a decent suspension to just start out with and get a feel for my car and the track? Does anybody else race on the works springs? Im over seas right now and im just trying to learn all i can about road racing, autocross, time trial events that i can. I just ordered 4 books from barnes and nobles about autocross and road racing. I have no clue as too the differences between them all besides the obvious. Im just looking for a little bit of beginners advice. Are all the classes the same for auto cross and roadracing?
If you have never been on a track, even if you have done a few events here and there, i will say that you have already done too much. Work on improving you. Your driving ability is _primary_ in the grand scheme of all the various factors. I would recommend that you spend less on mods and more on you. Why? Because seat time will gain you more speed than parts in the long run.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Read the linked thread, turn the boost down (yes, down) and find some places to get your feet wet safely.

Welcome to the family and have fun!
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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do i have to many mods to learn how to track my car? Why is this funny?
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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do i have to many mods to learn how to track my car?
Well, rather loosely speaking, its not the smartest way to learn how to drive your car. Ideally, its better to learn to drive your car in stock form. Think of it this way, why would someone, who has no on-track experience, who wants to learn how to track their car mod it first? Youre not going to know what mod is doing what. You wont know what to change/adjust when its time to take that step.

What you want now can possibly change. Besides, what you want can turn out to be useless, because what you know now vs what you will know after 5/10/30+ events will drastically change. Beyond that, understand that mods are not going to make you a better/faster driver. Whats going to make you a better/faster driver is you, and a bunch of seat time. So why waste money on a bunch of mods that are only going to hinder your learning experience, when you can be spending that money on improving the most important factor, which is you. Good luck with your venture.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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With that said you have the mods on there so don't bother taking them off.

You will however find that being on the track buts unreal stress on the car and keeping power mods light and focusing on handling, safety and longevity mods are your best bets.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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+1 to what dsycks and bueller said.

If you're going to take your car out on a road course, do some research here in the motorsports section on how to properly prep your car. It's not as big a deal for auto-x, but you need to take a road course seriously. Start small, pick good instructors, and enjoy.

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