Try some heel toe action to get the revs matched so shifting to 1st isn't such a pain.

 

you autox in the miller park lot?
do a lot of people autox there?
are you in any danger of getting in trouble?
i was just asking my friend today where he thought we could go... it would be especially tight to find a huge gravel lot to slide around in. however, miller park is very large. plus you could stay and watch the game sucks they're the worst team in baseball
i went to like 10 games this year and also to the all-star game. w00t.

 

Glad to see guys pushing their stuff and learning to drive.

ROAD/RACE
http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/

 

What are you going to do to suspension next ? Does your car understeer?

 

Now that I have broken in the engine on my OZ, it's time to go autocrossing (just in time for Buttonwillow too!). A few things I noticed while driving my Lancer:
- It holds a smooth corner. If you corner smooth enough, you can keep the revs up enough to stay out of the sluggish part of 2nd gear (even in some pretty tight turns).
- I need a strut bar
- I need springs
- I need race tires
- I need... a second job!

Anyway, if anyone knows if this block in 1st gear is permanent or if there is a way around it, please let us know. And I will post results from my Lancer's first autocross soon! This will be a unique change from the Camaro and Trans Am I used to race.

 

Yea there is a way to get around it since its non sychronized you can always Force it in but i dont recommend it~

 

If there's no synchro for first you should double clutch when shifting into first during the autox.

Mark

 

Thanks for your suggestions. Yeah, I won't force anything... I forced my camaro into 2nd once and got to have it towed back home to put the shifter back on. I assume double-clutching is pressing the clutch in twice rapidly? I'll give that a try.

 

Mine's got yokohama factory tires as well. We'll see what it can do!

I experimented with double-clutching today (now that my dad explained what it was), and it looks like it just might be a good idea for the shapr turns, but we'll see if it serves a purpose in the rapid sucsession of turns in autocross. Thanks!

 

Double clutching won't work on sync'd gears. Plus, that only really has benefits for cars with super high HP anyway. Once again, the Fast and the Furious is full of ****.

 

double clutching only works to get ure car into revese when it wont go from when i noticed as far as the non synch into first i wouldent recomend doing that i had a 91 stealth rt and i did that all the time then one day boom clutch went while doing it i know the clutch was fine before i did it but not after im pritty sure this is the reason why but i was 17 years old at the time so i dont really rember

 

the double clutching seems to work... I got mine to shift into first at 25 mph by reving to about 4000/4500 rpm. Still not sure if it has an autocross application, but it's fun trying to learn!

 

Umm, I think that someone has their definition of double clutching is totally off. From what I got out of that garbled tangle, sounded like a totally great way to drop your transmission. That might be a tad embaressing during a race.

Also, I think that your problem with the clutch going out had more to do with what RPM you were engaging then probably dropping your clutch when you get it into first, than the fact that you were SHIFTING it into first. Just my thoughts on the matter. Personally, I wouldn't give a 17 year old a Stealth R/T to learn how to drive a stick on, but, I'm not a parent yet, either.

And, seriously, feeling like it's helping really doesn't mean it is... try it, time it, and then we'll see. But, I still say that with syncro gears and a lack of high horsepower... the gains, if any, will be completely minimal.

 

Double clutching as defined by my father (he knows quite a bit about cars, but he's not a race car driver and he usually drives automatics now in his old age, so take it as you will): reving the engine with the clutch in to match the RPM required for the gear you are selecting. My observation: While slowing down for a turn, put the clutch in and rev the engine up to about 3500-4000 RPM while slowing to about 15-20 mph, then shift into 1st gear (apparently, it lets you because the RPM is high enough), let clutch out and keep driving. But you're right, any advantage this would have is debatable.

 

double clutching is useless.
what it is is this: you clutch to take it out of a gear. let off the clutch (1st clutch) then you rev your engine, hit the clutch and put it into the next year (2nd clutch - hence double clutching)
it's useless... really.
you're not really "learning" anything since it's not doing anything except ****ing up your engine.
don't ever listen to fast and the furious. if vin really double clutched he woulda got sk00led. it's a total waste of time. stick with your granny shiftin. heh.