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Old Jun 26, 2012, 07:11 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2012, 07:32 PM
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When will he drive an evo?
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When will he drive an evo?
never .. lol

French man with a French car. and most likelly he will win the X games too.
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
French man with a French car. and most likely he will win the X games too.
American man here, interested in driving French mans car
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Originally Posted by sblvro
When will he drive an evo?
When someone decides to run a evo in the WRC again....so, what Rob said.
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That's the real killer there. Would love to drive like him, even though I hate him. He's pretty much killed WRC single handedly. No one wins unless he retires or has serious problems and even then he still limps home in the top five...
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I'm just hoping that a real driver is going to come in and shut up all those extreme sport turned "pro" driver fanboys up! Lol
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Originally Posted by codgi
That's the real killer there. Would love to drive like him, even though I hate him. He's pretty much killed WRC single handedly. No one wins unless he retires or has serious problems and even then he still limps home in the top five...
I don't think the driver can take full credit. Just like with F1 when Schumacher was racing with Ferrari, he was a fantastic driver but he didn't single handedly dominate the F1 game. Racing is a team effort, the dynamic of the team (everyone involved, racers, engineers, water bottle hander outers) plays a massive part in their success.
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Originally Posted by mouseIX
I'm just hoping that a real driver is going to come in and shut up all those extreme sport turned "pro" driver fanboys up! Lol
Agreed.

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I don't think the driver can take full credit. Just like with F1 when Schumacher was racing with Ferrari, he was a fantastic driver but he didn't single handedly dominate the F1 game. Racing is a team effort, the dynamic of the team (everyone involved, racers, engineers, water bottle hander outers) plays a massive part in their success.
I agree to some extent. There are a few differences though. In the ferrari case the car/team was so far in front of others that Barichello got in that car and looked like a star. Citroen has had a bunch of other 2nd drivers during his reign that never looked like much even though they had the same car/team. Barichello also had team orders in some cases to let Schumi win...Loeb's never needed them. I don't remember the year but Citroen pulled out and he took a previous year's spec car to a championship that says that there might be something a little bit more special about him.
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Originally Posted by codgi
I agree to some extent. There are a few differences though. In the ferrari case the car/team was so far in front of others that Barichello got in that car and looked like a star. Citroen has had a bunch of other 2nd drivers during his reign that never looked like much even though they had the same car/team. Barichello also had team orders in some cases to let Schumi win...Loeb's never needed them. I don't remember the year but Citroen pulled out and he took a previous year's spec car to a championship that says that there might be something a little bit more special about him.
I think changing the driver is changing the biggest part of a team, so having a different driver effectively changes the team and affects the dynamic. There has been discussion about team orders from Citroen during the WRC NZ, but nothing confirmed.

I'm not trying to argue, everyone has their own opinions
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