Global Time Attack Texas, who's going?
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If you are looking to get your TT fix, Real Time Attack has a series they are running with very good rules for street driven vehicles. I am in their Street AWD class which is limited to 140utqg tires but you can do a lot of those fun mods to the car and not have to worry about points like with other clubs.
Two events left for the year.. WGI and Summit Main. check out www.realtimeattack.com for more info.
I'm looking to attend this. just paranoid as this is my first NASA event (prev experience just SCCA which seems much more lenient)
reading through rules/regulations extensively, looks like all I need (Enthusiast or Limited based on tire width) is a NASA approved inspection and fire extinguisher....right?
god I get paranoid about new rules I'm not used to 
reading through rules/regulations extensively, looks like all I need (Enthusiast or Limited based on tire width) is a NASA approved inspection and fire extinguisher....right?
god I get paranoid about new rules I'm not used to
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Here are rules for enthusiast class:
VII. Enthusiast Class: AWD; RWD (FR/MR/RR); FWD
NASA is managing vehicle inspection, timing, and scoring. Your vehicle(s) must meet the basic requirements for street vehicles (HPDE) as stated in Section 11 of the NASA CCR, found at: NASA CCR
Sample Enthusiast Class Vehicles: Nissan 370Z, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Honda Civic
A. Chassis/Exterior/Aero
1. Full carbon fiber or other lightweight material bodies are not permitted. Only bolted on components i.e. bumpers, front fenders, hood and trunk can be of alternate materials, doors must remain OEM.
2. The OEM tub chassis must remain intact and not modified in any way.
3. All OEM structure and protection must remain intact and not modified in any way.
4. The shock tower may be modified only to allow the installation of camber/caster plates and only such as required to obtain the necessary camber and caster.
5. Modifications to OEM suspension pick up points are not permitted. On strut type suspensions the outer end of the lower control arm may be adjusted a maximum of 1-inch. On vehicles where the above is not possible by OEM design the inner pick up point may be adjusted a maximum of 1-inch.
6. Front air dams, lips, splitters may not extend more than 5-inches beyond any portion of the bodywork.
7. Intercoolers may not extend past any portion of the bodywork.
8. All vehicles must use the OEM front and rear shock towers in the OEM locations.
9. Seam welding is not permitted.
10. Flat bottom floors (or undertrays) are not permitted. Front splitter extensions ahead of the front axle or rear diffusers that completely close off the area between the axle and bumper are also not permitted.
11. No portion of the rear wing may be the highest point on the vehicle. Wing width must also be within the footprint of the vehicle’s oem bodywork and below the roofline. Exceptions allowed for hatchbacks and wagons that have no rear deck for mounting a wing.
12. No portion of the wing may be more than 5-inches rearward of the rear most point on the bodywork.
13. Vehicles are limited to a maximum of four canards. Canards must be mounted entirely forward of the front wheel tire assembly. Canards may project a maximum of 3-inches beyond the OE bodywork.
14. Active aero is not permitted.
15. No more than one aftermarket wing is permitted.
16. OEM wheelbase must be retained.
17. Aftermarket over fenders and fender flares may be installed on the front and rear OE fenders. Rear OE fenders may only be modified to allow tire clearance. On vehicles with bolt on rear fenders the entire fender may be replaced with an aftermarket fender that is equal to or greater in weight to the OE fender.
B. Engine/Drivetrain/Fuel
1. Dog engagement gearboxes are not permitted. Drivetrain changes are not permitted.
2. Only gasoline may be used as fuel (including E85) and leaded fuel is not permitted.
3. Cars must be equipped with working catalytic converter(s) if originally equipped, which all exhaust must pass through with the exception of wastegate dumps.
4. Exhaust “tips” may only extend a maximum of 3-inches beyond the rear bodywork.
5. Nitrous oxide is not permitted.
6. Engine swaps are to be of the same configuration or be available in that chassis as an alternate from the manufacturer. Exceptions for rotaries, a 2 rotor engine may replace a 4cylinder or a 3 rotor for a 6 cylinder and vice versa.
7. Drivetrain changes are not permitted (i.e. FWD to AWD or AWD to RWD conversions).
C. Suspension/Brakes/Tires/Wheels
1. Cars must use DOT-approved treaded tires with a minimum UTQG-rating of 140 or higher. Equivalent tires from other markets (such as EU and Japan) are permitted.
2. Maximum Tire Width: AWD: 255; RWD: 285; FWD: widths are open
3. Aftermarket suspension control arms must be direct replacements for the OEM components.
4. Adjustable shocks/dampers are not permitted to have more than two-way adjustments as offered by manufacturer.
5. In-car driver-adjustable suspension or sway bars are not permitted.
6. Sway bar or links are not permitted to be mounted or pass through the vehicle’s interior.
7. Active suspension is not permitted. Vehicles with unmodified OEM systems are permitted.
D. Interior/Rollcage/Safety/Misc.
1. All cars must be currently registered street-driven cars with effective insurance coverage. All Enthusiast Class drivers will be asked to present valid registration and insurance paperwork during the mandatory pre-race tech inspection.
2. Headlights and taillights must be in an unmodified factory working condition.
3. All Enthusiast Class cars must be driven to and from the track.
4. Roll cages are not permitted to penetrate the firewall. If a six-point roll cage is installed any components may be modified only as needed to facilitate installation of the cage system, the front inner door panels may be removed.
5. Cars with fully gutted interiors are NOT permitted. OEM dash, headliner, carpet, center consoles, front door panels, and kick panels must be maintained and remain in OEM positions. All components associated with the above components are required and must be in factory working condition.
6. OEM Glass is required in all positions. Front door windows must be in full down position. Polycarbonate “Lexan” replacement windows are not permitted.
7. The battery must be securely mounted and the positive battery post must be insulated. If the battery is a wet cell or spillable type battery it must be mounted in a spill proof container.
8. The Enthusiast Class is not open to professional drivers with current or previous licenses in any professional racing series (i.e. NASCAR, Grand Am, IMSA, FIA, Formula Drift,) or instructing race drivers.
VII. Enthusiast Class: AWD; RWD (FR/MR/RR); FWD
NASA is managing vehicle inspection, timing, and scoring. Your vehicle(s) must meet the basic requirements for street vehicles (HPDE) as stated in Section 11 of the NASA CCR, found at: NASA CCR
Sample Enthusiast Class Vehicles: Nissan 370Z, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Honda Civic
A. Chassis/Exterior/Aero
1. Full carbon fiber or other lightweight material bodies are not permitted. Only bolted on components i.e. bumpers, front fenders, hood and trunk can be of alternate materials, doors must remain OEM.
2. The OEM tub chassis must remain intact and not modified in any way.
3. All OEM structure and protection must remain intact and not modified in any way.
4. The shock tower may be modified only to allow the installation of camber/caster plates and only such as required to obtain the necessary camber and caster.
5. Modifications to OEM suspension pick up points are not permitted. On strut type suspensions the outer end of the lower control arm may be adjusted a maximum of 1-inch. On vehicles where the above is not possible by OEM design the inner pick up point may be adjusted a maximum of 1-inch.
6. Front air dams, lips, splitters may not extend more than 5-inches beyond any portion of the bodywork.
7. Intercoolers may not extend past any portion of the bodywork.
8. All vehicles must use the OEM front and rear shock towers in the OEM locations.
9. Seam welding is not permitted.
10. Flat bottom floors (or undertrays) are not permitted. Front splitter extensions ahead of the front axle or rear diffusers that completely close off the area between the axle and bumper are also not permitted.
11. No portion of the rear wing may be the highest point on the vehicle. Wing width must also be within the footprint of the vehicle’s oem bodywork and below the roofline. Exceptions allowed for hatchbacks and wagons that have no rear deck for mounting a wing.
12. No portion of the wing may be more than 5-inches rearward of the rear most point on the bodywork.
13. Vehicles are limited to a maximum of four canards. Canards must be mounted entirely forward of the front wheel tire assembly. Canards may project a maximum of 3-inches beyond the OE bodywork.
14. Active aero is not permitted.
15. No more than one aftermarket wing is permitted.
16. OEM wheelbase must be retained.
17. Aftermarket over fenders and fender flares may be installed on the front and rear OE fenders. Rear OE fenders may only be modified to allow tire clearance. On vehicles with bolt on rear fenders the entire fender may be replaced with an aftermarket fender that is equal to or greater in weight to the OE fender.
B. Engine/Drivetrain/Fuel
1. Dog engagement gearboxes are not permitted. Drivetrain changes are not permitted.
2. Only gasoline may be used as fuel (including E85) and leaded fuel is not permitted.
3. Cars must be equipped with working catalytic converter(s) if originally equipped, which all exhaust must pass through with the exception of wastegate dumps.
4. Exhaust “tips” may only extend a maximum of 3-inches beyond the rear bodywork.
5. Nitrous oxide is not permitted.
6. Engine swaps are to be of the same configuration or be available in that chassis as an alternate from the manufacturer. Exceptions for rotaries, a 2 rotor engine may replace a 4cylinder or a 3 rotor for a 6 cylinder and vice versa.
7. Drivetrain changes are not permitted (i.e. FWD to AWD or AWD to RWD conversions).
C. Suspension/Brakes/Tires/Wheels
1. Cars must use DOT-approved treaded tires with a minimum UTQG-rating of 140 or higher. Equivalent tires from other markets (such as EU and Japan) are permitted.
2. Maximum Tire Width: AWD: 255; RWD: 285; FWD: widths are open
3. Aftermarket suspension control arms must be direct replacements for the OEM components.
4. Adjustable shocks/dampers are not permitted to have more than two-way adjustments as offered by manufacturer.
5. In-car driver-adjustable suspension or sway bars are not permitted.
6. Sway bar or links are not permitted to be mounted or pass through the vehicle’s interior.
7. Active suspension is not permitted. Vehicles with unmodified OEM systems are permitted.
D. Interior/Rollcage/Safety/Misc.
1. All cars must be currently registered street-driven cars with effective insurance coverage. All Enthusiast Class drivers will be asked to present valid registration and insurance paperwork during the mandatory pre-race tech inspection.
2. Headlights and taillights must be in an unmodified factory working condition.
3. All Enthusiast Class cars must be driven to and from the track.
4. Roll cages are not permitted to penetrate the firewall. If a six-point roll cage is installed any components may be modified only as needed to facilitate installation of the cage system, the front inner door panels may be removed.
5. Cars with fully gutted interiors are NOT permitted. OEM dash, headliner, carpet, center consoles, front door panels, and kick panels must be maintained and remain in OEM positions. All components associated with the above components are required and must be in factory working condition.
6. OEM Glass is required in all positions. Front door windows must be in full down position. Polycarbonate “Lexan” replacement windows are not permitted.
7. The battery must be securely mounted and the positive battery post must be insulated. If the battery is a wet cell or spillable type battery it must be mounted in a spill proof container.
8. The Enthusiast Class is not open to professional drivers with current or previous licenses in any professional racing series (i.e. NASCAR, Grand Am, IMSA, FIA, Formula Drift,) or instructing race drivers.
I was more referring to NASA/GTA Safety/Tech regulations and procedures, not so much which class to run. NASA seems different in SCCA in their requirements
(if you were referring to me)
(if you were referring to me)
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I am assuming you have looked at the NASA CCR (HPDE rules section)? It will answer any questions you may have. A fire extinguisher is not required (smart to have one though)
but an inspection by a NASA authorized shop is required (since it seems to read that's a rule across the board for NASA).
That's the only thing I can find. SCCA Solo / Prosolo is obviously stupidly simple - make sure car is together and it gets inspected at the event
sorry if I sound like an idiot - I just hate being the "new" guy that makes everyone groan because he wasn't prepared. If I'm 99% sure about something, I'm paranoid enough to still ask
meh...cant even run a front under tray even if its not a splitter i guess?
10. Flat bottom floors (or undertrays) are not permitted. Front splitter extensions ahead of the front axle or rear diffusers that completely close off the area between the axle and bumper are also not permitted.
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my oem is clogged and the testpipe is not allowed so i guess no GTA for me