Parker store as eric said or alaska rubber can build you lines, just a little spendy.....

 

I can build the lines, just need a conversion piece made on one spot to convert it to AN.

 

I'll agree with this statement, for what is worth I think you do great work, I'm just cheaper than I am lazy. Once I have more money than time I'll hit you up. Just out of curiosity why only the 2w dyno? Was a 4w one that much more? Just got a smoking deal on the 2w one?





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The initial investment may be a lot but think about all the cars you could tune/dyno. Evos suby Audi bmw etc.... I'd love to put my car on a real dyno, or simply the time saved over street tunes.

 

Were you over by Tikatnu yesterday around 11am? Saw a white Evo with carbon hood.

 

Yep I'm a manager at the AT&T there. I drive it every once in a while to work and back.

 

I understand the diy thing, I was and still am there. The EVO in my opinion is the best platform for this due to the crazy support you have. If you have enough time to spend in research, you can have a pretty fast car with little $$ invested, all done all by the owner. We are here for the guys who don't have a million hours to spend researching all this and would rather drive their car than tinker on it.
I did get a decent deal on the 2wd dyno. I looked into buying the superflow in the valley but it was going to cost more to convert it to awd than buy a new one. I heard the guys who are out there now are going to convert it but I'm sure they haven't done the reasearch yet, its too old to convert. I actually used the deposit I had for a brand new superflo AWD30 when I got the call that the dyno jet was for sale. I couldn't pass it up cause its mobile and it was here. An awd unit is about a minimum $100k investment and we are still moving that direction. The market is somewhat stable but AK is unpredictable so it has to be the right timing or it could be a big failure.

Nick

 

If I can get my hands on a built motor do you guys do just the swap?

 

Sadly there is a difference in what people say and what people will actually do. Take Nasioc/AKIC for example; plenty of people who were always talking how they'd be down for a protune from people like Jarrad @ PDX Tuning. They'd jump on the list but when time came to fish out the money/expenses so many would bail out. Eventually they had to have it as payment/deposit up front method only.

I'd imagine that it would still cost a reasonable but fair amount of money. An amount too many(possibly) people are too cheap to pay for. It's probably a huge risk for Nick to consider even diving into, considering the costs of the upgrade.

 

Any truth to Torco accelerator being more watered down since being bought out? Heard this from shop down in the states. Also what is the sunoco 104 price at the Muldoon store? Looking what's a better option vp109, torco, or sunoco 104 for race gas.

 

you'll always do better with real race gas than torco. As far as it being watered down I have no idea, I'm went meth injection and called it good. Never used race gas but I would imagine the highest octane you can go without going leaded (if you still have a cat and o2 sensors) would be the best choice.

I will admit to enjoying putting in 1/3 or 1/2 a can of torco before going to the track even with the meth injection just for the little extra safety. It works very well in that capacity. I doubt race gas would even help my top end since I'm still on the stock turbo.

 

Figured getting the best octane level would be best but was looking for a overall price since last i heard the vp 109 was close to 14 a gallon. If i could get the sunoco for cheaper, i'd just turn to that route. Probably will continue to use Torco, just wanted to know if anyone else heard that the accelerator was not as great as before.

 

torco is just a pain

 

Yup. We aren't $60 bucks a hour though. All my guys are full time and I pay them like union workers to stay and get the job done to my standards. I you give us a call we can give you an estimate. Book time is where we start just like everyone else.


Race gas will always make more power than any blended fuel. That said, I've been using Torco for about 7 years now with very good consistent results. Torco is not an octane booster though, its concentrated unleaded race fuel. I've built several 600WHP+ vehicles on torco blended fuel and a few 700WHP+ using meth and torco blended fuel. The only issue with torco is that the fuel quality is only as good as the base fuel you are blending. Torco adds octane (not quality) to fuel thereby increasing detonation resistance only. In a nutshell race gas is a much better base fuel (bigger boom) which will increase some power by itself due to the bigger boom and due to the octane, will allow you to tune and make even more power. Torco adds octane but will not make more power by itself (like race gas) due to our poor base pump fuel but it will allow for much more aggressive tuning which will increase power.
Now lets get to the math. If we blend two quarts of torco($40) with 10 gallons of 90($42) to make 104 it will cost about $92 for 10 gallons of 104 compared to $120 ($12 a gallon) for Sunoco. Saving you $28. Most people dont need torco for that high of an octane mix and use it to blend up to 93. There is nothing else on the market that is as convenient for a slight blend up in octane at the same price. It kills over the counter octane boosters. There is my sales pitch, they should pay me for this...... Torco is not for everyone, but it does fill a great need.
I'm a meth guy all the way though if given the option. I can make as much power with torco and meth as I can on race gas. 99 percent of my customers want to be able to drive their cars to fairbanks and back without having to carry a barrel of race fuel in their trunk........

Nick

 

I want to say I spent $10-12 a gallon for 104 at Muldoon Auto.