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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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A roll cage is, well, obviously for "rolling" accidents. Rolling accidents happen mostly on the track, not on the street.

The reason it is unsafe for the street and there is one main reason.

Impact/Collision Accidents:
(In your case, especially if you get T-Boned)

If you get impact from the sides or any contact with the bar in an accident, the bars will actually hold the car together to create a "whiplash" effect on the passengers and driver inside the vehicle. You have more chance to get into an "collision" accident on the road, than on the track. Henceforth, thats why it is unsafe for "street/daily driving".

Reason: Cars are designed and engineered to be "crumpled" in an accident, so that the car takes most, if not all, of the inertia from an accident and not the people inside. This is what creates injury in most accidents, and henceforth the reason for not being safe on the streets.

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AznEvoIX
A roll cage is, well, obviously for "rolling" accidents. Rolling accidents happen mostly on the track, not on the street.

The reason it is unsafe for the street and there is one main reason.

Impact/Collision Accidents:
(In your case, especially if you get T-Boned)

If you get impact from the sides or any contact with the bar in an accident, the bars will actually hold the car together to create a "whiplash" effect on the passengers and driver inside the vehicle. You have more chance to get into an "collision" accident on the road, that on the track. Henceforth, thats why it is unsafe for "street/daily driving".

Reason: Cars are made to be "crumpled" in an accident, so that the car takes most, if not all, of the inertia from an accident and not the people inside. This is what creates injury in most accidents.
one other reason is head on cage contact
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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^ Thank you for correction. I just stated the biggest one which I thought would be an issue. =P
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AznEvoIX
^ Thank you for correction. I just stated the biggest one which I thought would be an issue. =P
You are 100% correct, i wasn't giving a correction just an addition.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Rewrap your harnesses tighter and cross them, at that length. Cage looks ok, got more pics?


EDIT: oh, nevermind, it's just a 4 point? There isnt anything in front? Nevermind about more pics then haha



EDIT EDIT: Ok, I just read all the other comments, too. Yeah, they're right. However, if it IS a 4 point cage, with no half laterals by your head, you should be ok, helmetless... however, your rear/side crumple zones are gone, at least if your hit in the back doors. Although, with no half laterals, I suppose the entire 4 point could deform and be crushed.

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Ryon seems smart enough to realize these things. If he is putting something like that in his car I'll give him the benefit of the doubt to assume he is doing it for a reason.

Save weight - hilarious Derek!

Zak thinking someone else came off cocky? Wow!!! Seriously though, I think cockiness can be assumed from confidence, especially in confidence from experience. When I have met Ryon or seen him interact in a group setting I just got the feeling he knew WTF he was talking about. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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i dont know about u guys but i like his decal that say's i ha8 your honda.

hahaha
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Ah nice cage. I really want one but am still too chicken to start welding in the car. Maybe a bolt on one to get used to it in the future. Hell I'll be happy with a harness bar. Are you gonna paint it or leave it unfinished? I was wondering too if there gonna be a front part to the cage or is it more for rollover protection?

Btw your rear floor mats are still in...thats extra weight
Derek, I am going to paint it... I'm sorry I didnt specify more clearly, right now it is just a roll bar. Eventually I plan to go forward with door bars so I guess it wouldn't be considered a full cage. I have a harness bar if you are interested.....
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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i dont know about u guys but i like his decal that say's i ha8 your honda.

hahaha
It does in fact...... My own little custom F You!!
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dazed_driver
Rewrap your harnesses tighter and cross them, at that length. Cage looks ok, got more pics?

EDIT: oh, nevermind, it's just a 4 point? There isnt anything in front? Nevermind about more pics then haha

EDIT EDIT: Ok, I just read all the other comments, too. Yeah, they're right. However, if it IS a 4 point cage, with no half laterals by your head, you should be ok, helmetless... however, your rear/side crumple zones are gone, at least if your hit in the back doors. Although, with no half laterals, I suppose the entire 4 point could deform and be crushed.
^ Wise words.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xturdfergusonx
It does in fact...... My own little custom F You!!
I like the fact that you have the Drive Nice decal about 1.5 feet away from the Honda sticker!
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AznEvoIX
A roll cage is, well, obviously for "rolling" accidents. Rolling accidents happen mostly on the track, not on the street.

The reason it is unsafe for the street and there is one main reason.

Impact/Collision Accidents:
(In your case, especially if you get T-Boned)

If you get impact from the sides or any contact with the bar in an accident, the bars will actually hold the car together to create a "whiplash" effect on the passengers and driver inside the vehicle. You have more chance to get into an "collision" accident on the road, that on the track. Henceforth, thats why it is unsafe for "street/daily driving".

Reason: Cars are designed and engineered to be "crumpled" in an accident, so that the car takes most, if not all, of the inertia from an accident and not the people inside. This is what creates injury in most accidents, and henceforth the reason for not being safe on the streets.

Edited for Clarity.

Thanks for the lesson... Seems I have completely forgotten how cars are built. I guess I only know how to put them together, install parts, and drive them fast. I should have thought about what I did a little more *sarcasm*.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xturdfergusonx
Thanks for the lesson... Seems I have completely forgotten how cars are built. I guess I only know how to put them together, install parts, and drive them fast. I should have thought about what I did a little more *sarcasm*.
If the shoe fits, wear it.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Sick cage Ryon, dont let the haters or your so called "friends" get to you..
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AznEvoIX
If the shoe fits, wear it.
That crap just gets thicker and thicker these days........
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