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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 06:19 AM
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Diagonal Test

Our AWD system doesn't have brake force distribution for spinning wheels?
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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Good to know.

So, they're saying don't grandma those small slopes...
Instead, get your "DukeS of Hazzard" on.
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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I didn't see a 4WD sticker in teh rear window, so I am going to guess that wasn't actually a AWD. Wouldn't the TSC pick up on the spinning wheel and redistribute the torue to the non-spinning wheels with wheel spin down on teh spinning wheel?
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BTBean
I didn't see a 4WD sticker in teh rear window, so I am going to guess that wasn't actually a AWD. Wouldn't the TSC pick up on the spinning wheel and redistribute the torue to the non-spinning wheels with wheel spin down on teh spinning wheel?
It's pretty obvious that it's AWD within the first 10 seconds of the video, you can see the rear wheel spinning freely off the ground.
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Psssst.
I KNOW what they did here... They turned Off DSC.

That's how they got the wheel(s) slippage like that!
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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They also didn't specify if using 4WD AUTO or LOCK.

That is an interesting point about the 4WD sticker. It clearly is 4WD in the vid. but I wonder why they removed the decal.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Burtonrider1002
They also didn't specify if using 4WD AUTO or LOCK.

That is an interesting point about the 4WD sticker. It clearly is 4WD in the vid. but I wonder why they removed the decal.
Very good point also.

I bet in 4WD LOCK mode... you'd see a much different result.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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I removed the AWD sticker off mine as well. I just wanted to completely debadge the rear, (3D's and all) smooth and clean and it keeps'm guessing.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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I debaged my rear end too. Kinda looks like a BMW x3 rear, makes my ***** feel bigger.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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This video is just as pointless as the Subaru roller video.
TCS/ESP on or off?
4WD Auto or 4WD lock?

Subaru does the same thing on those dumb rollers except they leave the TCS/ESP systems on in the competing cars, without telling the viewers, to make the other AWD systems look inferior because the TCS/ESP system takes power away from the system. And they never specify if the Subaru's is on or off.

So with that, its about as useful as watching this...


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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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I debaged my rear end too. Kinda looks like a BMW x3 rear, makes my ***** feel bigger.
I debadged mine as well, save the and 4WD. Looks much, much better.

Originally Posted by Outie11
This video is just as pointless as the Subaru roller video.
TCS/ESP on or off?
4WD Auto or 4WD lock?
Nice sig. That's been my thoughts all along.
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Old Dec 14, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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Although it is an old thread but here is why you did not see the 4WD sticker. The tested vehicle is not a debadged version. The test was conducted on a Canadian RVR. Here in Canada we get the AWC badge located just under the left tail light and not the 4WD sticker in the rear window.
Attached Thumbnails Diagonal Test-2015-mitsubishi-rvr_awc-badge.jpg  
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Old Dec 14, 2015 | 02:15 PM
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It is also worth to say here that AWD system passes easily diagonal test, it just requires momentum (wheel spin about 15 km/h).
Furthermore, it works faster in 4WD Auto than in Lock.
In 2WD it cuts power much more than in other modes, so it doesn't work efficiently.
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Old Dec 14, 2015 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vavoom
It is also worth to say here that AWD system passes easily diagonal test, it just requires momentum (wheel spin about 15 km/h).
Furthermore, it works faster in 4WD Auto than in Lock.
In 2WD it cuts power much more than in other modes, so it doesn't work efficiently.
I meant to ask you in the other thread whether the traction control (TC) is supposed to prevent wheel spin. I do not remember exactly whether in your test the TC was on or off or did it make a difference?
I would think that wheel spin without resistance would drain all the torque and the purpose of the TC is to redistribute the torque on the same axle. What is your take on this?
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Old Dec 15, 2015 | 02:09 AM
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Traction control itself is not preventing wheel spin (that is function of ASR etc.), its function is to send torque to wheels with traction by applying the brakes and closing the throttle.
AWD system in ASX/RVR/Outlander Sport allows some wheel spin and there must be some reason for that - even in older Pajero wheels are stopped immediately by TC, so in our cars it is done intentionally to work like this. It works exactly like this guy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tes5...utu.be&t=6m29s

If you watch my test on ice - there was almost no difference with TC ON and OFF:
Mitsubishi ASX 2WD 4WD LOCK AWD test on snow & ice - RVR / Outlander Sport - YouTube

All tests on rollers were done with TC ON, you can compare:
- above 15 km/h:
Mitsubishi ASX 4x4 diagonal roller test - 4WD LOCK - RVR / Outlander Sport - YouTube

- below 15 km/h:
Mitsubishi ASX traction control below 15 km/h - diagonal test on rollers - RVR / Outlander Sport - YouTube

It is very hard to find information about this system in Mitsubishi, but if we look at newest Suzuki system (All Grip) - Lock mode also allows "necessary wheel spin".

From my experience with ASX - TC is designed just for the destination of this car (not for offroad, not for sport etc.)
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