Remote Stater Question
Hey, I'm also having this issue. I don't think this auto-start was directly from the dealer. It must have been installed by another shop. (I'm not sure if Mitsubishi does the install or not from factory)
Pretty much this happens:
- hold auto start button
- car starts up and warms up
- unlock car with keyless entry
- press on brake pedal
- car shuts off
- car is only turned on again once i push the power on button to start up the car when I'm inside the car.
Pretty much this happens:
- hold auto start button
- car starts up and warms up
- unlock car with keyless entry
- press on brake pedal
- car shuts off
- car is only turned on again once i push the power on button to start up the car when I'm inside the car.
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IF it's not installed by factory then that's possible good news, cause you can probably find a work around it.
Ask your dealer to see who they may have used to install the remote system.
IF it's not installed by factory then that's possible good news, cause you can probably find a work around it.
Ask your dealer to see who they may have used to install the remote system.
This thread is old but I thought I would post some information about what is happening and what is causing all of this.
The operation of the OEM remote start system from mitsubishi is totally normal. That is, when you get to the vehicle and unlock the car, the car shuts off. This is done for security reasons. The module has a key code programmed into it so that when you start your car remotely, it uses the pre programmed key code to start the vehicle. In theory, a thief could get in the car and drive away. Once the car was shut off, the vehicle wouldn't be able to be restarted, but the vehicle would be out of your driveway or possession. So when the vehicle is shut off and restarted, it is switching over to your fast key on your person, not the pre programmed key code.
Now your probably asking "well why isn't this a seamless process and requires me to restart the vehicle?" This is dependent on what is called the take-over module. The take-over module is what allows people to just tap the push button with their foot on the brake without killing the car in the process. Very few OEM units in low-cost production cars have this seamless take-over module with smart key systems, but if you are going with an after market system and you would like a seamless starting process, then you need to ask about the take-over module and ask if the system you are looking at will allow the modification of the take-over module to one that is seamless (some of the after-market systems allow you to decide how you want the take-over process to work).
The operation of the OEM remote start system from mitsubishi is totally normal. That is, when you get to the vehicle and unlock the car, the car shuts off. This is done for security reasons. The module has a key code programmed into it so that when you start your car remotely, it uses the pre programmed key code to start the vehicle. In theory, a thief could get in the car and drive away. Once the car was shut off, the vehicle wouldn't be able to be restarted, but the vehicle would be out of your driveway or possession. So when the vehicle is shut off and restarted, it is switching over to your fast key on your person, not the pre programmed key code.
Now your probably asking "well why isn't this a seamless process and requires me to restart the vehicle?" This is dependent on what is called the take-over module. The take-over module is what allows people to just tap the push button with their foot on the brake without killing the car in the process. Very few OEM units in low-cost production cars have this seamless take-over module with smart key systems, but if you are going with an after market system and you would like a seamless starting process, then you need to ask about the take-over module and ask if the system you are looking at will allow the modification of the take-over module to one that is seamless (some of the after-market systems allow you to decide how you want the take-over process to work).
This thread is old but I thought I would post some information about what is happening and what is causing all of this.
The operation of the OEM remote start system from mitsubishi is totally normal. That is, when you get to the vehicle and unlock the car, the car shuts off. This is done for security reasons. The module has a key code programmed into it so that when you start your car remotely, it uses the pre programmed key code to start the vehicle. In theory, a thief could get in the car and drive away. Once the car was shut off, the vehicle wouldn't be able to be restarted, but the vehicle would be out of your driveway or possession. So when the vehicle is shut off and restarted, it is switching over to your fast key on your person, not the pre programmed key code.
Now your probably asking "well why isn't this a seamless process and requires me to restart the vehicle?" This is dependent on what is called the take-over module. The take-over module is what allows people to just tap the push button with their foot on the brake without killing the car in the process. Very few OEM units in low-cost production cars have this seamless take-over module with smart key systems, but if you are going with an after market system and you would like a seamless starting process, then you need to ask about the take-over module and ask if the system you are looking at will allow the modification of the take-over module to one that is seamless (some of the after-market systems allow you to decide how you want the take-over process to work).
The operation of the OEM remote start system from mitsubishi is totally normal. That is, when you get to the vehicle and unlock the car, the car shuts off. This is done for security reasons. The module has a key code programmed into it so that when you start your car remotely, it uses the pre programmed key code to start the vehicle. In theory, a thief could get in the car and drive away. Once the car was shut off, the vehicle wouldn't be able to be restarted, but the vehicle would be out of your driveway or possession. So when the vehicle is shut off and restarted, it is switching over to your fast key on your person, not the pre programmed key code.
Now your probably asking "well why isn't this a seamless process and requires me to restart the vehicle?" This is dependent on what is called the take-over module. The take-over module is what allows people to just tap the push button with their foot on the brake without killing the car in the process. Very few OEM units in low-cost production cars have this seamless take-over module with smart key systems, but if you are going with an after market system and you would like a seamless starting process, then you need to ask about the take-over module and ask if the system you are looking at will allow the modification of the take-over module to one that is seamless (some of the after-market systems allow you to decide how you want the take-over process to work).
Although I can't speak for everyone, I actually did know what the issue was, as I have looked into it extensively in the past. My two complaints are along the lines of what you mention:
- The OEM
Remote Starter (RS) kit has two major "flaws" IMO. The first being that it cannot perform a secure take-over. You mention "low-cost production cars" not having this option, but at over $500 for the OEM RS kit, I don't feel that we're in "low-cost" accessories for ANY production car. The second "flaw", is that it requires a secondary, full-size key FOB instead of being able to use the original key. - Aftermarket kits have the ability to do secure take-over for just about every car EXCEPT the SMART key system. It's my understanding that
refuses to cooperate with aftermarket manufactures, and thus preventing any types of workaround.
Every issue and flaw u mention stems from the fact that this cars electrical and mechanical workings are old. Mid 2000s old. There is no secure seamless take over option via oem because that exceeds the FASTkey systems capability. This system has been here since 2006 with minor updates and modifications from Mitsubishi. I highly doubt the 2014 outlander brought in a new FASTkey system that does allow secure seamless take over, but I'll ask the master techs I know. I'm very happy with my oem remote start system; with Mitsubishi you have to take a very "it is what it is" approach to their products, accessories, and everything.
I do strongly suggest you voice your concern to Mitsubishi motors North America, because belive it or not, they are listening. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, trust me, they are listening and want the feedback right now. The remote start is something that was designed by MMC, not MMNA so in order to get MMC to design something more streamlined, MMNA has to tell them. MMNA doesn't really monitor the satisfaction feedback on the remote start system because it has a very low take rate, so they'd love info on it from owners with the system. And everything I just told you is coming from a person I know who works at MMNA
I do strongly suggest you voice your concern to Mitsubishi motors North America, because belive it or not, they are listening. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, trust me, they are listening and want the feedback right now. The remote start is something that was designed by MMC, not MMNA so in order to get MMC to design something more streamlined, MMNA has to tell them. MMNA doesn't really monitor the satisfaction feedback on the remote start system because it has a very low take rate, so they'd love info on it from owners with the system. And everything I just told you is coming from a person I know who works at MMNA
If you wanted to have it shut down when they open the door on a aftermarket. All you would have to do is hook up the brake shutdown wire to a door trigger.
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