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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Calors Im sorry. PD told me if i take off my Header i will have more TQ on my car..and I dont have any Injection kit either. i got my 91oct 20 psi 4th gear 315TQ 330HP which 15tq and the 30hp more then what had from Al. Carlos you said to me before we were the same. I want to see 05 to 05 not 05 to 03. one more you know Abner cant shift he did 1/4 mile 15.8scond. means what. take your car to vivid then will see! Im down with you anytime Carlos from 40-140. give me a call!
Old Nov 17, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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No problem Edwin. I want to make clear Ebnars car was very fast, much different than the last time I drove it. Ebnar did not miss any gears, perfect shifts.

Edwin, yeah the 05 is stronger than the 03 but Cmon man, he has 345TQ and 325 WHP. I hope you are not insinuating that the 05 has that much advantage, it does but once the cars are tuned the power diferences between the 03 and the 05 go away because you change the parameters of the ECU.


Last time we tested , you and me we dead even, that also includes same mods.
You are probably faster considering you are making more power than before.

I don't want to speculate on power figures. I know you made 301 whp with Al's tunning in the past, I don't know how much power I am making. I will be doing a base dyno just to see, then I will compare after the tunning.

I am very happy for Ebnar, he finally got his car the way he want it.

Edwin, you should take your car to the track this Saturday the 19th and see your improvements.

I am happy for my friends, I want to have friends with fast cars, I don't care if one was tuned by a different tuner.
Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Ebnar,

I never said you were a bad driver, neither I am a good driver. Indeed you are correct, I should take my car to a dyno, I am really dying to have my car dynoed.

In my opinion I always said that the MR 6 speed torque/rpm is Dynamite, add 264/264 CAMS and you will quickly find out that my MR spools like a mother %UCKER. My car red lines to 8000rpms, it does no knock and it boost so much that reads clockwise well pass the 1.5 bar and nearly touches the vacuum 76 reading.

When Al did my tunning we tested my car over and over, we went 7600rpm, then 7800 then he asked me are you sure you want 8000rpm dude? I said yes.




When we went from a roll you did not miss a single gear. I observed both cars absolutely dead even, so even that like I mentioned before we were within a foot the entire time 30-140.

Yes, the Dyno should give us a good indication of where we are but the thing is that if we gunned in whatever gear the cars responds directly according to the specific configuration, mine is superfast spool, astonishing perfect 6 speed gear ratio for great acceleration on the other hand you can boost more and shift less.

I expect Edwind to be even a bit faster.

It is hard to tell. I will have my dyno done in a couple of weeks.

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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You guys are nuts... I'd lose to every one of you, and I couldn't care less No need to turn it into a dick measuring contest
Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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Carlos
both cars absolutely dead even mean = HP, TQ dyno
So if you dont think the shiftin slow.
then I think Abner can race for !@#$flash coz he is lighter weight so the car can go faster.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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He claims that his dick is as long as mine, all i want to see is if we measure the same on the same ruler, thats all
That more or less seems to be the point he is trying to express
Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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I am using a 15 v/v% WFR (water to fuel ratio), water injector pulses in-sync with the fuel injector
Originally Posted by drivethrufinch3
Im curious to know how much water it uses up?
Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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14 gallons of water = 53 kilograms / 53000grams. A float switch 5 grams. You carry the water, i'll stick with my float switch

Originally Posted by vboy425
you better invest on in trunk 14 gallons water thank
Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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wow, but i got my money on abner.
Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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I would like to add, water has very high latent heat of vaporization, 2X that of methanol, 6X that of gasoline. In simple term, when water goes to steam, it absorbs tremendous amount of heat. The reason why you run low AFR in low octane fuels, 87, 89, 91 is simply to cool the charge within the combustion chamber to prevent knock/detonation. Also, when you burn rich/low AFRs, CO -carbon monoxide is produced and thats detrimental to the power generation. When water go to steam, there is ~5000X increase in volume, keeping pressure constant. PV=nRT, constricting the steam into the combustion, pressure increases, which aids in pushing those 4 pistons downwards - aka steam engine. The steam also aids in steam cleaning the pistons, head....

Originally Posted by timzcat
Not really. It's all about the resistance to pre-ignite.
Higher octane does in fact burn slower so it is more resistant to pre-ignite. In general even if it does start to ignite early it will do so later then a lower octane and therefore is less likely to burn the mixture early. If that made any sense.

This is why on your typical NA car, if it says 87 octane then you should not put super in.
A lot of thought and design goes into the combustion chamber and proper octane for the design. High octane fuel in this scenario is likely to not burn completely which will increase emissions and is simply a waste of money.



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