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Skym May 26, 2010 12:06 AM

Hm... that's weird cuz whenever advanceautoparts have oil sales it's always 5 quarts.. I hate that I have to get one quart at full price... Am I the only one??

sepandee May 26, 2010 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Skym (Post 8343127)
Besides the type of oil he bought didn't anyone notice he only bought 4.4L of oil??

Our cars need 5.5L or Quarts of oil.


Originally Posted by sepandee (Post 8341185)
Just checking to see if I bought the right products. The oil is oil 5w-30 EXTENDED PERFORMANCE and oil filter M1-104 EXTENDED PERFORMANCE. I bought 4.4L + 1L of the oil. The 4.4L jug was less than $30. Not bad :)

:)

xi May 26, 2010 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Skym (Post 8343202)
Hm... that's weird cuz whenever advanceautoparts have oil sales it's always 5 quarts.. I hate that I have to get one quart at full price... Am I the only one??

1 qt at full price?

Yours uses more than 5qts?

Whenever I change my oil, even after letting it drip for like, an hour + filling up the filter, I still end up using about 4.75 qts, no more.

GRAPHITE RALLI May 26, 2010 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Skym (Post 8343127)
Besides the type of oil he bought didn't anyone notice he only bought 4.4L of oil??

Our cars need 5.5L or Quarts of oil.

he definetly said 4.4 +1L

03chi-town0Z May 26, 2010 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by brads09lancerGT (Post 8342815)
^ I know Chi;) I said it came with 5W30 not anything about synthetic. I still don't understand why it came from the factory without synthetic:confused:

i figured you knew, but im sure there are people on here who havent scanned through the old threads and may not be aware of that fact, so it was more for them than any kind of knock towards you, im sorry if it came off that way, just trying to clarify for everyone. so if you have a brand new ralliart and plan on beating it up a bit, you may want to do an oil change first...

and of course, regarding the reasoning behind the petrol based factory fill, every penny saved from the factory on any little bit they can get away with is golden to any corporation, especially if its the cost difference between standard and synthetic oil for every ralliart they produce. plus, i guess they figure you shouldnt be beating on the car during the first 1500 miles of break-in and with a synthetic oil change by a responsible customer at that point, maybe they figured all would be ok. at least i'd like to give mitsu that much credit anyways :rolleyes:

sepandee May 26, 2010 11:47 AM

So it's finally done. Price: $35 for labor and filter. Cost of oil: around $45. Both plus tax.

I asked the guy why he said they use 5W-20. He said that's what is recommended. I told him the car manual recommends 5W-30 for the ralliart with turbo, especially during summer. He said no, if I look at the engine it says 5W-20. What the heck. Of course, I didn't check. I'm happy with the -30.

Thanks guys.

laksman91 May 26, 2010 12:03 PM

May I ask which (st)ealership you went to?

initial_d2k May 26, 2010 12:58 PM

I'm going to change to Eneos 0w50 ... anyone tried that?
why 0w50? cuz that's what my local garage recommend to be the "best" ..

sepandee May 26, 2010 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by laksman91 (Post 8344914)
May I ask which (st)ealership you went to?

The one called midtown or something. On Eglinton and Dufferin.
They were very nice with me actually.

evo_soul May 26, 2010 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by initial_d2k (Post 8345127)
I'm going to change to Eneos 0w50 ... anyone tried that?
why 0w50? cuz that's what my local garage recommend to be the "best" ..

I am no wiz in oil. But the job of oil is to lubricate and minimize friction. second is to remove heat from critical areas of your engine.

Unless you are beating your Ralliart thru the gates of hell. I dont think a 0w50 oil is needed.

My opinion, of course. but I think if your going to just occationally drive a bit wild. even 0w30 oil is fine. So long as you change it at normal intervals. you will be ok.

Skym May 26, 2010 03:33 PM

Oh my bad for missing that lol

Slee256 May 26, 2010 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Skym (Post 8343202)
Hm... that's weird cuz whenever advanceautoparts have oil sales it's always 5 quarts.. I hate that I have to get one quart at full price... Am I the only one??

I also did the 5 quarts deal at Advance Auto Parts and that was enough to fill my Ralliart during the oil change.

Slee256 May 26, 2010 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by evo_soul (Post 8345226)
I am no wiz in oil. But the job of oil is to lubricate and minimize friction. second is to remove heat from critical areas of your engine.

Unless you are beating your Ralliart thru the gates of hell. I dont think a 0w50 oil is needed.

My opinion, of course. but I think if your going to just occationally drive a bit wild. even 0w30 oil is fine. So long as you change it at normal intervals. you will be ok.

I agree. In fact, I remember a thread from a while back where a guy tried to run a heavier weight oil and then switched to a lighter weight oil and he said it made a big difference in the performance of his car, especially during cold weather.

brads09lancerGT May 26, 2010 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by 03chi-town0Z (Post 8344557)
i figured you knew, but im sure there are people on here who havent scanned through the old threads and may not be aware of that fact, so it was more for them than any kind of knock towards you, im sorry if it came off that way, just trying to clarify for everyone. so if you have a brand new ralliart and plan on beating it up a bit, you may want to do an oil change first...

and of course, regarding the reasoning behind the petrol based factory fill, every penny saved from the factory on any little bit they can get away with is golden to any corporation, especially if its the cost difference between standard and synthetic oil for every ralliart they produce. plus, i guess they figure you shouldnt be beating on the car during the first 1500 miles of break-in and with a synthetic oil change by a responsible customer at that point, maybe they figured all would be ok. at least i'd like to give mitsu that much credit anyways :rolleyes:

No prob Chi, didn't think u were trying to make me feel like a newb:D
I guess if they can save a little $$ by not putting in synthetic originally and keeps the MSRP down a bit I guess it is all good. I made sure to do my break in and do a sythetic oil change before I ever drove "aggressive"

initial_d2k May 27, 2010 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by evo_soul (Post 8345226)
I am no wiz in oil. But the job of oil is to lubricate and minimize friction. second is to remove heat from critical areas of your engine.

Unless you are beating your Ralliart thru the gates of hell. I dont think a 0w50 oil is needed.

My opinion, of course. but I think if your going to just occationally drive a bit wild. even 0w30 oil is fine. So long as you change it at normal intervals. you will be ok.

I know I really don't "need" such grade of oil cuz I never go to track or what-so-ever. 100% street use. As far as I know, the price difference is not more than 20$ for invoice total; so I'm like, why not get a better one.

Just not too sure if there's anything negative when using 0w50 vs 0w30...


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