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Gary@MellonRacing Oct 20, 2009 10:24 AM

+1 ^^

Gary@MellonRacing Oct 20, 2009 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Spoolin' By U (Post 7632123)
Interesting dyno results Mr. Buschur. Thanks for posting them! But it still takes 41.4 psi and E85 to make that 537whp on a fully built Evo? Most of us here would much rather see a pump gas tune with around 30 to 35 psi instead. But maybe thats in a perfect world so to speak.

u just stold my thought there :lol:{thumbup}

R/TErnie Oct 20, 2009 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Spoolin' By U (Post 7632123)
Interesting dyno results Mr. Buschur. Thanks for posting them! But it still takes 41.4 psi and E85 to make that 537whp on a fully built Evo? Most of us here would much rather see a pump gas tune with around 30 to 35 psi instead. But maybe thats in a perfect world so to speak.

#1) It's a mustang dyno... the car trapped 134mph... It's got over 600 on a DJ... easy.

#2) Pump gas dyno's will be out soon enough. I think Dave was right to compare the two turbo's running flat out.

#3) I don't think you'd have a whole lot of success keeping con-rods inside your block if you ran this turbo all out on a stock block.

ETS Michael Oct 20, 2009 10:32 AM

Those are some pretty nice gains over the Red turbo. I'm interested to see how it does on a non built car. Good Test.

Michael

binky Oct 20, 2009 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by ETS Michael (Post 7632164)
Those are some pretty nice gains over the Red turbo. I'm interested to see how it does on a non built car. Good Test.

Michael


Me too - I am definitely interested in results from a non-built engine + 93 octane.




-Bink

SloRice Oct 20, 2009 10:42 AM

You're also playing with fire running this turbo on a stock block.....


Nice write up Dave.

Boltz. Oct 20, 2009 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by davidbuschur (Post 7631940)
The posted dyno test was done in 3rd gear on both pulls. Chris's highest numbers were done at higher boost and in 4th gear.

No the testing was not done on the same day, the dates are on the sheet.

If you have the time, could you be more specific?

It looks like the bottom line numbers for a best comparison are

RED - 494 whp / 507 ft/lbs
BLACK - 537 whp / 522 ft/lbs


Am I incorrect?

RockmanX Oct 20, 2009 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by davidbuschur (Post 7632055)
This turbo appears to me to be good enough to autocross, 20 psi of boost at 3800 rpm is pretty low in the RPM range. I'd say this turbo looks to be the best all around turbo there is, autocross, road course, drag, whatever.

The turbo comes with the HD actuator and the oil line kit. That is not the i/c pipe kit.

yea i know but still want want to see how it lays down on 93 oct. ill have a built head and 2.3 installed so thats good but i dont have the luxury of e85 here so a 93 oct test to make sure its still spooling great and putting down some numbers is in order but hey least you put a test out there thanks dave. just hard for me to pull the trigger as i want a good road racing/somewhat drag turbo with decent spool up.

SloRice Oct 20, 2009 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Boltz. (Post 7632231)
If you have the time, could you be more specific?

It looks like the bottom line numbers for a best comparison are

RED - 494 whp / 507 ft/lbs
BLACK - 537 whp / 522 ft/lbs

Am I incorrect?

Yes. Cars make more power in 4th gear on BR's dyno than they do in 3rd gear.

SloRice Oct 20, 2009 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by RockmanX (Post 7632241)
yea i know but still want want to see how it lays down on 93 oct. ill have a built head and 2.3 installed so thats good but i dont have the luxury of e85 here so a 93 oct test to make sure its still spooling great and putting down some numbers is in order but hey least you put a test out there thanks dave. just hard for me to pull the trigger as i want a good road racing/somewhat drag turbo with decent spool up.

Then buy one and tune it on 93 octane. David said in the VERY FIRST POST this is the only testing he's done. He hasn't done any testing on 87, 91, 93, 94, 100 unleaded, C16, Q16, Methanol or f*cking space shuttle gas.

Read before you post. {pcfreak}

05evoGSR Oct 20, 2009 10:56 AM

I think pushing this turbo on a stock block with all the bolt-ons might be a little too much like RTErnie said.

David, do you think running this turbo on a stock block safely will even be worth it? I think you will end up having to cut so much of the turbos potential it will end up being a waste.

sdfontanini Oct 20, 2009 11:03 AM

Thanks for the info Dave, 40 psi is just gettin ridiculous.

Wonder if this will be the end of the FP turbo line for the Evo 8/9's for a while.

Stock block + HTA82 = carnage. Good luck to anyone willing to sacrafice their block for the experiment.

- Steve

RockmanX Oct 20, 2009 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by SloRice (Post 7632277)
Then buy one and tune it on 93 octane. David said in the VERY FIRST POST this is the only testing he's done. He hasn't done any testing on 87, 91, 93, 94, 100 unleaded, C16, Q16, Methanol or f*cking space shuttle gas.

Read before you post. {pcfreak}

why dont you read my post before you start beating up your keyboard i said if you can read would be nice to have a 93 oct test but at least he did something. i read complete threads thanks for trying

EVO8LTW Oct 20, 2009 11:04 AM

FP has been busy! I feel like the Red just came out and already I'm a generation behind!

Spoolin' By U Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM

Yeah lets have Dave perform tests with some 87 octane {thumbdwn}


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