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bbyevo8u Mar 17, 2010 06:12 PM

off topic: when is the bbk-b coming out, anyone know? really want to see what that turbo can do

RockmanX Mar 17, 2010 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by bbyevo8u (Post 8106544)
off topic: when is the bbk-b coming out, anyone know? really want to see what that turbo can do

you made your choice you have a fp red dont worry about it :D

Mautofied.IS300 Mar 17, 2010 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by bbyevo8u (Post 8106544)
off topic: when is the bbk-b coming out, anyone know? really want to see what that turbo can do

There are a couple threads in the dyno results thread I believe, and it is making awesome power. Definitely my turbo choice in the future.

-Will

BLKCarbonEVO Mar 17, 2010 09:26 PM

I wouldn't run the SST.

I tried to use my car as a test subject and then send them the turbo back... They didn't want to do that. I'm willing to bet it is a piece and is not even comparable to a Green. Any reputable shop would gladly let a third party test a product because the results are then non-bias!

MAP is a great shop and I know a lot of people that work there. They are always amazing to me and take care of me. I however don't run any of the "MAP" Products. I'm also surprised that Chis has not got in this forum.

Mikey

hokiruu Mar 17, 2010 09:27 PM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with considering the SST. It's just a matter of if you want to take some calculated risk. It seems highly unlikely that you would NOT make more power than you have now. It seems somewhat to marginally likely that it may be inferior to more expensive turbos in terms of performance and customer support (nothing against MAP at all, big fan, just that FP and CBRD have more of a market share which=more likely for long-term product support). It is certain that it is cheaper. List those factors in order of your priority, determine if you can afford what you want in a reasonable timeframe, how much you want it now, how much you want to be different/a pioneer/guinea pig, and decide from there.

I for one would like to see you run it just so we have another example of what this turbo is really capable of. Even if it doesn't meet the perfoarmanc of the more expensive turbos, if it makes good power for the money in the right places, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

ChrisCarey Mar 18, 2010 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO (Post 8107242)
I wouldn't run the SST.

I tried to use my car as a test subject and then send them the turbo back... They didn't want to do that. I'm willing to bet it is a piece and is not even comparable to a Green. Any reputable shop would gladly let a third party test a product because the results are then non-bias!

MAP is a great shop and I know a lot of people that work there. They are always amazing to me and take care of me. I however don't run any of the "MAP" Products. I'm also surprised that Chis has not got in this forum.

Mikey

You do understand that we simply can't send this turbo out to everyone that wants to do testing right? We had I believe 5 or 6 people that committed to testing these and as far as I know all have posted positive results. Now, when you compare that to the hundreds of people running and writing about other turbos I'm sure you can see how those threads would get lost in the mix.

Your comment about this turbo being a "piece" without having ever seen or used the product is upsetting to say the least. I understand that there is limited information on this turbo, but have you ever considered how this product affects our relationships with vendors like FP and CBRD? That is the main reason you haven't seen or heard much about this turbo as we need to make a decision on how we would like to proceed with our turbo program, if at all...

Additionally, we have made 475whp in house on E85, another customer made ~460whp on our dyno on E85, and a third made just short of 400whp on pump gas. If these numbers fit your goals you will be happy with the SST, I personally guarantee it. Additional feedback is coming soon as well as I will be installing the SST on my personal car very shortly and Dan O. (rawkus) will be running the SST on his time attack car this season :)

CBRD Mar 18, 2010 03:28 PM

Chris,

LMK if we can help if you guys make any changes.

cb

PoloTurbo May 13, 2010 02:13 PM

Any other results for this turbo on an 8?
I don't see many cars that documented the results

ChrisCarey May 13, 2010 02:19 PM

This turbo was discontinued with only 15 or so in circulation, as a side note they were discontinued for reasons other than performance of the product...

PoloTurbo May 13, 2010 04:25 PM

I see so you were "forced" to stop selling these?
Too bad, no wonder turbos are high price...
Give me your details as I could start selling those FROM Canada, quite a bit of less pressure from here I'm sure.

ChrisCarey May 13, 2010 04:36 PM

Nothing was forced upon us, we simply don't have the manpower to run a turbo outfit as it quickly became obvious that you need to dedicate a lot of time and money to properly run a turbo program! lol

Domolution May 13, 2010 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by RockmanX (Post 8106536)
just get a exedy twin and be done with it pure_evo i cant believe your even considering this turbo seriously bro

lOl!

True, but a bit harsh.

racer135 May 13, 2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisCarey (Post 8304151)
Nothing was forced upon us, we simply don't have the manpower to run a turbo outfit as it quickly became obvious that you need to dedicate a lot of time and money to properly run a turbo program! lol

This was a replacement turbo not an upgrade on a stock turbo right? Honestly I am preety sure this turbo used the same turbine and compressor of the TOMEI ARMS and the Kamak turbos.

whitey627 Jan 7, 2011 08:47 AM

I run the map sst turbo with an e85 tune an I was pushing around 505..

Enzo1089 Jan 7, 2011 09:17 AM

I got the very last SST Turbo from MAP. I will tell you that as soon as I opened the box I knew this was a high quality turbo. It's a shame that they didn't have the means to keep making these. I'll be posting a dyno chart in a few months when it goes in my car, along with my new 2.4L ;)


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