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EvlEvoIXSE Jul 20, 2010 05:04 PM

Cossy m2 or m3 are amazing imo but springs and retainers souls be considered also

RockmanX Jul 20, 2010 05:13 PM

as mentioned fp4rs kelfords s2s take your pick and be happy

BLKCarbonEVO Jul 20, 2010 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by EvlEvoIXSE (Post 8510012)
Cossy m2 or m3 are amazing imo but springs and retainers souls be considered also

Cossy's are junk imo also, however better than BC and HKS. Aaron at ER did a back to back S2 vs. M3s and picked up 20hp with the S2s and improved spool. I tried looking for the graph for you but can't find it. I'll keep looking.

S2s would be first choice and Kelfords would be 2nd if the op decides to purchase different cams.

Mikey

leonevox Jul 20, 2010 06:47 PM

sometimes dyno lie too, haaaaaaa. cossie m2 are great

BLKCarbonEVO Jul 20, 2010 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by leonevox (Post 8510352)
sometimes dyno lie too, haaaaaaa. cossie m2 are great

A Dyno Jet doesn't lie, nore does ER!

Mikey

leonevox Jul 20, 2010 06:50 PM

{thumbup}

Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO (Post 8509953)
No why? I leave in August to go to the boat but I'll be on till then. Trying to get rid of me? :lol:

Mikey

if you keep giving out mis info , yeah . JK, we do need more member with great experiment like u and rockman dude. :beer:

leonevox Jul 20, 2010 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO (Post 8510355)
A Dyno Jet doesn't lie, nore does ER!

Mikey

nah, dyno could be off sometimes . Weather, day, mood, etc. inaccurate sometimes too. Example, your car could run fast today but might not tomorrow. :lol:

leonevox Jul 20, 2010 06:56 PM

mostly depend on tuning and installation.

RockmanX Jul 20, 2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by leonevox (Post 8510374)
nah, dyno could be off sometimes . Weather, day, mood, etc. inaccurate sometimes too. Example, your car could run fast today but might not tomorrow. :lol:

dyno is just a tuning tool lets keep it that way bench racing {thumbdwn}

scorch Jul 20, 2010 06:59 PM

just pick the same cam that seems to be working well at the track like the buschur 272

RockmanX Jul 20, 2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by scorch (Post 8510387)
just pick the same cam that seems to be working well at the track like the buschur 272

yea if you have a built motor and upgraded spring and retainers and dont mind aggressive idle SURE thing {thumbup}

leonevox Jul 20, 2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by RockmanX (Post 8510379)
dyno is just a tuning tool lets keep it that way bench racing {thumbdwn}

oh sure, we all knew it is an tuning tool rock, but like i said, they are not very accurate . The best tune is Street tune , not dyno . You run your car on the street or on the dyno rock?

BLKCarbonEVO Jul 20, 2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by scorch (Post 8510387)
just pick the same cam that seems to be working well at the track like the buschur 272

And other cams are not working well? You are crazy!!! I don't run anything BR and won't ever. I don't seem to have a problem making power...

Mikey

BLKCarbonEVO Jul 20, 2010 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by leonevox (Post 8510395)
oh sure, we all knew it is an tuning tool rock, but like i said, they are not very accurate . The best tune is Street tune , not dyno . You run your car on the street or on the dyno rock?

INCORRECT! The best tune is both. You can't always feel the wrong timing on the street, small misfires, afr, boost, and a few other reasons why dyno tunes are the best for making the most power. You will ALWAYS make more power dyno tuning. Period.

You should street tune too. It helps make sure that the cars driveablity is tits. Something that you can't really do on a dyno. Cars will always preform different on the streets.

Mikey

leonevox Jul 20, 2010 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO (Post 8510408)
INCORRECT! The best tune is both. You can't always feel the wrong timing on the street, small misfires, afr, boost, and a few other reasons why dyno tunes are the best for making the most power. You will ALWAYS make more power dyno tuning. Period.

You should street tune too. It helps make sure that the cars driveablity is tits. Something that you can't really do on a dyno. Cars will always preform different on the streets.

Mikey


there's also virtual dyno that u can use while tuning on street my friend. Just ask chris@mellon tuning, he will explain to u mikey.{thumbup}


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