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Balrok Jul 6, 2019 02:14 PM

Rofl. I have an IT sensor chillin in my UICP I haven't bothered to wire up since I tried MAP that one year, need to add that to my list.

kaj Jul 6, 2019 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by razorlab (Post 11878872)
Real science right der... derp

Right? Car works great, but who cares because I can produce a print out.

EVO8LTW Jul 7, 2019 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by kaj (Post 11878746)
I have a Blitz. Everyone warned me against it because it was "too small" and "it's tube and fin". My car has maxed out a Walbro fuel pump without a single issue while daily driving, autox, and road courses, all in the heat. The thing also weighs next to nothing. It's a work of art. Before that, I had an AMS FMIC that I had a feeling was overkill. Looks like I guessed right.

Are you on E85? I’m thinking yes if you are maxing the fuel pump? If so, I think that changes the equation for how effective your intercooler needs to be.

kaj Jul 7, 2019 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by EVO8LTW (Post 11878942)
Are you on E85? I’m thinking yes if you are maxing the fuel pump? If so, I think that changes the equation for how effective your intercooler needs to be.

Good point. Yes, I was on e85 with both FMICs. That does help a lot and my main reason for running it at the track :D

RazorLab Jul 7, 2019 05:32 PM

If you look at my data... Tube and fin ftw. I'll take a 10-15F drop in MAT and oil temps from real sensors data logged over multiple laps and track days to internet shrugs any day of the week. Weight loss off the front of the car is a win as well.

Looking at two shiny things and stating shrug "No knock I guess it works" shrug is far from a scientific comparison and contributing nothing but noise.

Some people might say I can be an ******* but at least I contribute actual data.


Originally Posted by kaj (Post 11878876)
Right? Car works great, but who cares because I can produce a print out.

That ish is right up there with that "It ain't happen' to me, so I guess it dun happen!" crap.

EVO8LTW Jul 7, 2019 07:06 PM

razorlab, was your tube/fin Greddy thicker than your previous AGP bar/plate? It looks like it in the photo you posted.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.evo...e0f6593b9.jpeg

RazorLab Jul 7, 2019 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by EVO8LTW (Post 11878993)
razorlab, was your tube/fin Greddy thicker than your previous AGP bar/plate? It looks like it in the photo you posted.

AGP
20”x13”x3.5”
cubic inches= 910
24.5lbs

Greddy 33F
20.6”x11.6”x3.95"
cubic inches= 943

One thing I didn't do is weigh the Greddy 33F.

OEM Evo X FMIC weighs 9.5lbs

kaj Jul 7, 2019 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by razorlab (Post 11878983)
If you look at my data... Tube and fin ftw. I'll take a 10-15F drop in MAT and oil temps from real sensors data logged over multiple laps and track days to internet shrugs any day of the week. Weight loss off the front of the car is a win as well.

Looking at two shiny things and stating shrug "No knock I guess it works" shrug is far from a scientific comparison and contributing nothing but noise.

Some people might say I can be an ******* but at least I contribute actual data.



That ish is right up there with that "It ain't happen' to me, so I guess it dun happen!" crap.

Well, lookit you go! Let's go around and bag on anyone posting their experiences without data. I bet we could clear this website out in no time flat.
{thumbup} That should take care of 99% of the threads here.
As for you being an *********, looks like there's data to back that up. shrug

LetsGetThisDone Jul 8, 2019 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by kaj
Well, lookit you go! Let's go around and bag on anyone posting their experiences without data. I bet we could clear this website out in no time flat.
{thumbup} That should take care of 99% of the threads here.
As for you being an *********, looks like there's data to back that up. shrug

Data is a good thing. My Bar/plate ETS also works "fine", no knock etc. so why would I switch based you claiming the same thing? After seeing actual data from @razorlab , I am now inclined to find a tube/fin IC to shave some weight since I can tell it actually works.

kaj Jul 8, 2019 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone (Post 11879068)
Data is a good thing. My Bar/plate ETS also works "fine", no knock etc. so why would I switch based you claiming the same thing? After seeing actual data from @razorlab , I am now inclined to find a tube/fin IC to shave some weight since I can tell it actually works.

It's absolutely a great thing, I'm not saying negative about him posting numbers. I also aren't suggesting anyone change a part on their car based on my experience. But if OP is on the fence and sees multiple people with positive outcomes, then it may help make a decision. He's free to discount my post, if he just wants numbers.
Seeing how EVERYBODY who posted above me was doing the same (no data or numbers), I added my $0.02.

Ayoustin Jul 8, 2019 02:45 PM

I hate how like every decent tube and fin unit is made overseas. Ugh.

kaj Jul 8, 2019 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by ayoustin (Post 11879103)
I hate how like every decent tube and fin unit is made overseas. Ugh.

Maybe due to popularity? I have always, always, always been told bar and plate is "the way to go", so maybe why everyone uses the cores? I get the impression that tuners in Japan, etc are more concerned with efficiency and building a car "properly", above all, vs American's take of "I'm overdoing it so I can go bigger latter".

Dallas J Jul 8, 2019 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by ayoustin (Post 11879103)
I hate how like every decent tube and fin unit is made overseas. Ugh.

Because muricans only drag race and size/mass make for better single pull vehicles. I swapped to the blitz for the weight change, cant say I've noticed much difference over the ETS 3.5" but I also havent done anything to collect data.

Balrok Jul 9, 2019 07:58 AM

Where's a reliable source for the blitz's?

Dallas J Jul 9, 2019 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Balrok (Post 11879161)
Where's a reliable source for the blitz's?

I got mine from FRSport when they had a sale, was $273 shipped. Looks like the normal price is much more though. They were were in the middle of moving and clearing out inventory so I think I just got lucky and didn't know it was a sale.

https://frsport.com/blitz-23114-type...r-4g63-evo-8-9


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