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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by paulekas


as I've stated earlier, dumb idea to run H-beams when you have so much torque. Might as well spill water in your intake and hope for a gain in 50 hp. Make sure you get I beams next time around. 700 bucks saves you 8 grand

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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrwickd123
as I've stated earlier, dumb idea to run H-beams when you have so much torque. Might as well spill water in your intake and hope for a gain in 50 hp. Make sure you get I beams next time around. 700 bucks saves you 8 grand
u 100% right but its too late 9000$ in the drain...
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by paulekas
u 100% right but its too late 9000$ in the drain...
yeah, sorry about that.

I think the block you specified comes with I beams, so you're solid
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mrwickd123
H beam rods are pretty much useless for our cars, might as well stick to stock. You have two windows in your block because your rod(s) snapped. Don't blame Manley, blame yourself for picking the wrong part and not doing research. (I wouldn't buy H beam rods for any car with a turbo)
Interesting comment but what do you base that theory on? I'm just rebuilding a customer's drag evo motor that was a real 950bhp at the crank and ran to 10,200rpm all season. Carrillo H-beam. One of many. Never had a problem. If people want to use cheap products then I or H won't help!
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mrwickd123
as I've stated earlier, dumb idea to run H-beams when you have so much torque. Might as well spill water in your intake and hope for a gain in 50 hp. Make sure you get I beams next time around. 700 bucks saves you 8 grand
And you've stated incorrectly again, as you stated incorrectly before!

The breakage was nothing to do with being an 'H' beam, it was due to being a low quality rod, from a company with little or no quality control, using poor forgings which can have internal flaws. Thus the breakage happening at low revs when the rod was new.
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CliveW
And you've stated incorrectly again, as you stated incorrectly before!

The breakage was nothing to do with being an 'H' beam, it was due to being a low quality rod, from a company with little or no quality control, using poor forgings which can have internal flaws. Thus the breakage happening at low revs when the rod was new.
Ok ok, Manley H Beam rods, sorry. Either way, if he were to go manley he should have bought the I beams.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CliveW
And you've stated incorrectly again, as you stated incorrectly before!

The breakage was nothing to do with being an 'H' beam, it was due to being a low quality rod, from a company with little or no quality control, using poor forgings which can have internal flaws. Thus the breakage happening at low revs when the rod was new.
50/50 there...

There is a direct correlation between H beams and motors with windows in them. There's a great blown motor thread over on the other forum and the common denominators are too much torque on stock rods and too much torque on H beams. There are rods from Manley, Carillo and a few others in there that have let go.

I agree that an H beam from another company with better products will perform admirably, but the I beams do tend to last longer on the 4B11T.

I personally went with Pauter rods on my build and would never touch Manley, even with Paulekas' dick.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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as a civil engineer... buy I beam rods instead of H beam.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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But more specifically Manley H beams suck, made in china crap. Zero quality control.

You should try lowering springs for your valves to get that hella flush look.
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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Nasty
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Looking real good
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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Update us!!!!
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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ok so the car will be done next week here some pic for the engine... block was built by erl strickly modified doing all the work

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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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