I tried tapping the brakes before corners with the stock Brembos, and it was inconsistent whether or not there would be pad knockback. Sometimes if there wasn't, that tap would cost me speed and would throw off the car.

And yeah, Centric blanks are amazing for the stock Brembos. However, IMO for those people that serious about lap times / tracking, the AP kit would be the one to jump to, rather than 2 piece rotors, or another "brake kit."

The rotors included in the kit are +5mm over the OEM rotors, I fitted the caliper over the old OEM rotors during the install, and it looked centered, so I assume you could run OEM rotors with just the CP8350 caliper (and bracket), but don't quote me on that.

I don't think AP Racing has a NA branch. I think they just have distributors like Essex, Stillen, etc. who piece together and package their own kits. The missing bracket would be the distributor's fault and not the actual brand. Where was the caliper leaking though? Seals, bleeder, etc.?

 

http://www.alconkits.com/ is who I got my MONO6 kit from and at the torque spec they recommend it leaks between the bleederscrew and the body of the caliper. Doubling the torque seems to solve the problem but they dont reccommend that and have since stopped replying to emails.
The main reason I upgraded from the stock brakes was because the stock calipers have the WORST feel of any car i've EVER driven short of something with drum brakes on all 4 corners.
So while going with another caliper in this case the mono 6 has been the FIX for this....
I'm not currently driving the car but not sure what would happen once I get some heat into them. Hopefully I wont lose brakes and wreck the car.

 

^ curious to know which cars you've driven on track before to think the stock evo brakes have the worse feel

 

now that's interesting

 

My camry brakes have better feel then the stock brembos, it will pull up as quick at slow speed as quick with one toe on the peddle but they wouldnt last 2 laps on the track. I was surprised with lack of feel with the Oem brembos when I bought the car but you can smash them lap after lap with no fade or stinky burn smell like the other street brakes. If I was spending a couple of large on new brakes I'd want something that outperforms the brembos. Period.

 

There isn't a lack of feel with the stock brakes. They have excellent progressive feel. It's more like a race car brake system, very linear pedal. Where as street cars, like your camry, are setup to slam you into the windshield when you breath on the pedal, which is not good for a motorsports application.

 

Actually I'm talking about driving around town engagement feel. The pedal effort to engagement is complete garbage. Even with stoptech street pads which shouldn't require any warm up. Hell your average corolla beater gets better bite.

 

Race car progressive pedal feel, or grocery getter touchy pedal. Pick one, you can't have both.

 

I just did as with any decent quality BBK.

 

Sounds like you had the wrong pads on the car. Initial bite is fine on my car with racing brake ET800 pads. I've driven evo's with ****ty pads, and yea, it sucks. But good pads make all the difference.

 

x100000

I personally can't stand touchy brakes; I find the pedal is quite linear on our cars which makes it easy to modulate the pedal. If I wanna brake hard then I push the pedal hard, lol.

But with a decent set of pads I have no complaints whatsoever with the brakes. Stainless lines good fresh fluid and no air in the lines makes for a rock solid pedal

 

Alcon is not AP Racing
So which is the kit you ordered?

 

+1
Stock calipers and rotors, castrol fluid, SS lines, and CL RC5 pads and they feel great at everything from Autox to high-speed decel. I don't even swap pads for around town any more.

 

Wrong again, car came with hawk hps+, I nearly rear ended some guy in the rain on the way home from buying the car. Then I switched to the stoptech street pads which should of had the best cold bite as i've used them on other street applications. The best was the st-43 but still a 1985 civic would have better braking.
You are by far the strongest lover of the stock brakes and i'll just let you convince yourself of that. You guys prob dont DD your cars.

 

I drive my car around town, from time to time. The weather varies from rain, to 35* days to 100*+ days. I've used Pep Boys ceramics, Hawk DTC 60s, and my RC5s. The only time I've ever had an issue with braking, on or off track, was during an autox when we had to run through a puddle RIGHT before the braking zone. Even then it was only for a few feet.
Here's a pic from the event LOL. I've never, ever had a problem with my brakes during the six years that I've spent with two different EVO IXs. I honestly don't know what to tell you.