It would be awesome if we had a reasonable off-the-shelf option. I'm assuming there just hasn't been any demand as few people autocross Evos in BS and our stock suspension just isn't worth saving in anything else.

Congrats on your fantastic finish last Sat. I wasn't particularly thrilled with my performance at Philly region that day. I was trying to pinch a particular cone after a 180, which turned out to be a very very bad move. I was losing at least .3 - .5 there alone and I did it for all 7 runs .

I'm happy though that until that point I was keeping even with Nate's fully prepped s2k on a transitional course. As you know Caserta placed 2nd at Nats in 2014 with it (and it was before the car got JRZ shocks) and Nate also trophied last year so it is definitely a fast car. I feel I would have been much closer or even faster at a proper course like NNJR where it's not just stupid transitions and actually has sections that Evos can benefit from. Our cars are more competitive than a lot of people are making out to be IMO.



Kenny's RS, Robert's S2k, me, and Kaiser's C5.

 

Well it looks like I won't be seeing my revalved Bilsteins anytime soon... apparently one of the front strut housings is bent and Bilstein USA is all out of replacement housing .

I wasn't expecting to get them back this season anyways but ugh. As if I haven't had other BS to deal with this year.

 

I might have one of mine back at home if you need something quick...

 

According to this thread, you deal with BS all the time!

 

Don't you need them as spares?

I SO saw that coming .

 

I do, but not right away, so you could figure out later what you could do here...

 

Mic drop ....

 

Finally an event worth writing about!!

Results are here: Final and Pax

As you can see, 3rd fastest time in BS!! My standard S2000 opponent got me beat again by the typical margin!! So, what is so great about that same old story??

Night before event I saw that famous Panda was taking rest after Nationals and one of driver who is usually driving it was listed in ASP in his daily driving street tired EVO 9. I offered my car and we got some extra result out there from a guy with a jacket or two. On the top, he is also familiar with EVOs, since he still has one. It is still just EVO 9, but nobody is perfect!!

Weather was not cooperating in the morning and it was drizzling till early afternoon. Still,it was slowly drying and each run was better than one before. Afternoon was more even, but it could have start drizzling at any moment.

On first 3 runs in the morning Dave hit total of 24 cones, which might be some kind of a record on its own!! I thing there are few that he missed! Afternoon was much cleaner and only cones come on his last run (2 of them, which was also the fastest raw. A whole second faster than me in my own car!!

He said that there was a bit more time out there, but not much. Additional half a second the most! Run in mid 60s with heaviest of EVOs would be pretty respectful! His only complain was that car is too willing to rotate and it does it all the time. He should have tried TARMAC mode to see the real meaning of rotation! Basically, he was saying that if rear end would behave a bit more normal and still rotate when needed, things would be amazing. He was also happy with power application even though his daily is slightly modified EVO with probably more power than my car. Perhaps, a bit of toe in in the rear could help things in this regard.

BTW, does anyone know how does the toe changes under bump for our cars?

So, this was finally an opportunity to have someone who is really good to drive BS EVO. I knew that I couldn't drive it as it should be driven and I knew there was time I am leaving out there. But, it was almost impossible to know how much that is. With his 6 runs, it looks like EVO could get pretty close to the top guys out there! I am sure if he would have few more events in the car, things could have just improve even more. Is that enough for catching C5? It is really hard to say! Couple events ago current BS National champ was at Devens and he ended up 1.5 sec behind the top guys. Dave managed to be under a second behind them with his dirty run and 1.1 sec with a clean one. Seem to be in the ball park with advantage for EVO. But, Devens is rarely C5 friendly course, so that has to be taken into account as well - slalom heavy course is only good for S2000s!

At the end I have videos of our fastest runs. If someone could put them together so I could see where I lost a whole second it would be great!!

Dave's last run:

My last run:

 

You really need to come down to NNJR for an event or two. It will give you a real good idea of where you stack up on a more typical course

 

Well Prime is trying to get me there for a while, but I don't see it in the near future, unfortunately! Perhaps two of you could make a short trip up north!!

As of were I stand right now, I have pretty good idea were that is...what would be really nice to see is where Dave would be right now!!

 

No chance of me going up there to run a giant slalom type course. Like i said, we are super spoiled by our venue and wide variety of elements.

 

For your viewing pleasure...


I don't have any data for the X, but here are some for Evo V:

Front:




Evo V front suspension toes out as it compresses. BTW that camber 'gain' looks depressing as hell .


Rear:



Looks like rear toes in slightly as it compresses.


Again, these are for Evo V suspensions, not the X.

 

Just fixed the vid link .

 

Thanks for the video!

Definitely pointed out few bad things I was doing there!

One of the first one was that I was not as aggressive for first several turns as he was. His speed was 15 mph higher in several spots!!

Next, he managed first big turnaround at higher speed than me too. I made mistake and entered it at higher speed, but than my speed dropped down, while he accelerated. Standard "slow in - fast out" thing!! Also leaving that big turnaround, I slowed down (for some strange reason that can't be explained other than brain fart), while he kept accelerating. Last right side cone he passed at 41, while I slowed down to 21?!? Kind of strange to see that much of a difference and that much slowing down. Especially since right after the next left side cone my speed is higher than his.

Next few sections on the main runway showed that my speed was higher than his on several spots, which is puzzling. Perhaps, my speed was higher, but I was sliding more and loosing more time that way. I couldn't say whether he was gaining more or the other way around through those sections.

Right before the slalom, he was accelerating more than I did (his speed was going up, while mine was steady at 52). Trough the slalom it looked like my speed was higher through the middle (well he did hit a cone there), but his exit speed was pretty close.

Next three cones on the left side of the course after the slalom showed another mistake of mine. I entered it at 46, while he was at 42. But right after he went up to 44, while I went down to 41.

At the next big turnaround onto the taxi-way, I was higher at the entry (who would guess that) 3 mph. We were close in the middle, but he again accelerated at the exit, while I dropped down (28 for me to 36 for him). Through the taxi-way we are even, but last wall before the big turn he held the speed at over 50, while I dropped down to 46. That next big right hand turn, it looked like he didn't do that well and went wider than he should. Still by the next wall of cones, his speed was 3 mph higher than mine.

The last wall on the left side I entered 2 mph faster and that cost me a lot of time for a long slide. My speed kept dropping and I could recover only so much through the finish with speed of 45 to his 51.

I know this might not be useful for you guys, but it will be for me.

Thanks again for the video! Opened up my eyes for several things I have been doing wrong out there! Lets hope I could fix some of them in the future!!

 

Just watched these two individually again and it looks like speed reading doesn't really match what is going out on the course...