View Poll Results: Which Should I End Up Getting?
RobiSpec Springs
24
31.17%
Swift Springs
44
57.14%
Explore My Options (Tanabe, Tein, etc.)
9
11.69%
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Swifts or RobiSpecs? Help Me Decide!!
Just out of curiosity, how much do the RobiSpec springs lower the car? I'm thinking of trying the RobiSpec's the second time around. I had Swifts on my frist Evo and LOVED them. I just want to get an idea of how the Robi springs would look in comparasion to the Swifts. Just wondering if it's worth trying something new.
The first Evo I bought had Tein's. I switched to Swifts and it was like a new car. This Evo has Tanabe springs. They're better than the Tein springs, they ride comfortably, but there is defiantly room for improvment. So how much do the Robi spring lower the car? I remember reading 1" all around.
The first Evo I bought had Tein's. I switched to Swifts and it was like a new car. This Evo has Tanabe springs. They're better than the Tein springs, they ride comfortably, but there is defiantly room for improvment. So how much do the Robi spring lower the car? I remember reading 1" all around.
robi did a jdm evo suspension on my car with his springs, basically a basic package with a few upgrades...It feels smooth and out performes may guys that run coilovers here in town...its WAY more than you can use on the street and its a pretty good once in a while track set up.
a quik post from the peanut gallery.....tripoding is caused by 3 things(mainly)...heavy trail braking..(you over load the outside front spring) .too much rear camber/too little tire pressure (rear isnt releasing quick enough) too much rake......as in too much front drop...the evo loses a HUGE amount of mecanical roll resistance as the front of the car is lowered too much. this all adds up to the rear lifting the inside tire....put the sway on full stiff add 6 lbs more tire pressure than in front and back the car in!lol you will learn how to drive an EVO! with it's tail waging.
any suggestions on how to set up my Varient3s
no prob robi..I tell people and they don't believe me until I pass them in a corner..hahaha..love playing with people on mountain roads.
shamless pitch....you can not go wrong with anything suspension from him.
shamless pitch....you can not go wrong with anything suspension from him.
Support as in setup, questions, settings, things that qualify as support? Esp if he's coming out to your area. If you've been here any amount of time you know that 85% of us don't "live near there" and yet we get support...things called telephones and such lol. If you want to just slap a set of swifts on at your local shop, and hope for the best, that's all you 
Though even if you went with the swifts, he'd still install them for you and help you out with whatever your goals may be.
Though even if you went with the swifts, he'd still install them for you and help you out with whatever your goals may be.So i agree robis help would be great for coilovers but springs are easy.
Either springs are great but the swift imo are superior.
thanks for the pics.....
what track is that? Its beautiful. Looks like great topo
as well as smooth runoffs (where i spend too much time
)
"I feel I out grew them and decided to move to Ohlins DFVs?"
how'd you decide on the Ohlins?
vs RobiSpec's Varient3?
One thing not mentioned in this thread-
much is said about the desired driving char. of the Evo and
how to correct it to the desired over-steer needed for the track
not mentioned is-
the driver's style, importance of seat-time first and learning how to drive to very consistent times, much less the skill needed to be able to read the fine tuned char of such a finely tuned Evo...
I've seen equally skilled drivers w/decades of experience, equal times, and stratospherically different set ups...they would be unable to switch cars and get equal times....
what track is that? Its beautiful. Looks like great topo
as well as smooth runoffs (where i spend too much time
)"I feel I out grew them and decided to move to Ohlins DFVs?"
how'd you decide on the Ohlins?
vs RobiSpec's Varient3?
One thing not mentioned in this thread-
much is said about the desired driving char. of the Evo and
how to correct it to the desired over-steer needed for the track
not mentioned is-
the driver's style, importance of seat-time first and learning how to drive to very consistent times, much less the skill needed to be able to read the fine tuned char of such a finely tuned Evo...
I've seen equally skilled drivers w/decades of experience, equal times, and stratospherically different set ups...they would be unable to switch cars and get equal times....
The reason I moved to Ohlins was the following:
1. Camber was limited to about -2* on the Bilstein/RobiSpecs
2. On the track 255 BFG R1s were overworking the suspension.
3. I also had a little rubbing here and there (the BFGs are 10" wide)
That's it otherwise they felt perfect. I may even go back if I decide this suspension is too stiff for a daily driver. They certainly don't soak the day to day events as well as the previous setup.
I went with Ohlins mainly because I couldn't find anything bad about them. I had read a couple threads where people moved from KW's to DFV's and prefered the DFV's.
As you noted drive style is important but I have found that many variables can be adjusted via alignment and tire pressures.
As for the track I think there are actually two shown.... Shawano and Blackhawk Farms.
1. Camber was limited to about -2* on the Bilstein/RobiSpecs
2. On the track 255 BFG R1s were overworking the suspension.
3. I also had a little rubbing here and there (the BFGs are 10" wide)
That's it otherwise they felt perfect. I may even go back if I decide this suspension is too stiff for a daily driver. They certainly don't soak the day to day events as well as the previous setup.
I went with Ohlins mainly because I couldn't find anything bad about them. I had read a couple threads where people moved from KW's to DFV's and prefered the DFV's.
As you noted drive style is important but I have found that many variables can be adjusted via alignment and tire pressures.
As for the track I think there are actually two shown.... Shawano and Blackhawk Farms.
kelly, if you can get robi out here to do alignments on a weekend, your welcome to use the new space we got at the shop to get an alignment party going. we've got plenty of parking, little less then 3k sqft of shop space, a lift, all the tools we'll need. just no alignment rack or any of that jazz.
(p.s. make a track day out of it too
) we are going to eagles canyon on the 26th of september (evo meet) and again on the first week of october for the NASA event.
(p.s. make a track day out of it too
) we are going to eagles canyon on the 26th of september (evo meet) and again on the first week of october for the NASA event.
kelly, if you can get robi out here to do alignments on a weekend, your welcome to use the new space we got at the shop to get an alignment party going. we've got plenty of parking, little less then 3k sqft of shop space, a lift, all the tools we'll need. just no alignment rack or any of that jazz.
(p.s. make a track day out of it too ) we are going to eagles canyon on the 26th of september (evo meet) and again on the first week of october for the NASA event.
(p.s. make a track day out of it too
) we are going to eagles canyon on the 26th of september (evo meet) and again on the first week of october for the NASA event.what do you think?
i'll start a new thread when i hear from you..pm or 817-471-7440
