That clutters up the sellers thread. Seriously, I spectate the for-sale section a lot to see what kind of deals are going on but when you see the certain type of person saying "Socal Mitsu is selling them New @ 2X,XXX". It kinda puts the seller in a bad position if I may add. I speak for everyone when I say this because I see very nice 350whp cars go for prices equivelant to new IX prices but ****heads still say "i'll give you 15K and my civic."

I mean im coming from Supraforums where they inforce it heavily mainly because they have same exact types of cars go through there. (supras, evos, z06's etc) Im just seeing if you guys moderate that section as much as you do to the other sections of the forum, because we all know that is where most of the money is whether you care or not.

Anyways it wouldn't hurt to put some section rules in there. http://supraforums.com/forum/announcement.php?f=27

^theres basically the new rules they added. Just wondering basically, cause it seems so free to do stuff in the for-sale section of means of replying to the OP's car and talking crap etc.

Feel free to look at this or just delete it, but im just speaking from my mind and for everyone else.

Peace.

 

Thank you for the request.

I am a moderator on Wichitaracing.com and we do our best to enforce the For Sale forums.

I searched for rules and found none. I would like to see some sort of enforcing as well.

 

I mean it's always great to enforce bigger places such as the cars for sale forum rather than something lower like the Off-topic section, even though I do love hanging out there.

 

Gatorade, I understand what you are saying but there is a flip side to that as well.

When a vendor or a member makes a for sale thread and then bumps that thread a billion times because he says his prices are set in stone and nobody wants those new/used items for that price it gets really annoying to keep seeing the same thread bumped over and over again. If we enforce a no low balling then there should be a time limit and numerical limit on how and when you can bump your for sale thread unless you are willing to lower the prices when you consecutively bump your thread.

It's a fair market, so if we as members feel that the prices are too high than we shouldn't be subjected to repeat bumps over and over again. Just my .02

 

Faust, true...but most people use the "new thread" feature and if noone posts in your thread, they probably well never see it.

Bumping increases the chances of it being viewed.


Although I do see your point as well. It's a two-way street.

 

I know on supraforums anything under 90% of the asking price is prohibited. Lowballers are very annoying when they offer some asinine offer that's not even 50% of market value. People do this to only cause trouble in my opinion.

 

I think you're expecting a lot of action, and some unrealistic hopes...

We can put up "no lowballing" rules. But some people don't think they're lowballing, they think they're offering a fair price to someone who's being unreasonable, etc. Also, just because we say "no lowballing!" doesn't mean people won't. So then we have to read every single post of every single thread to monitor it (because no one ever seems to use this --> ).

It's just a fact of life. Some people offer low, some people demand high, some people bump their thread 8000 times.

 

Everyone should know what the market value is for the car they are trying to buy. Offering 3-4K under that is insulting and infuriating to sellers.

 

Why exactly does everything have to sell at "market value" ? That's the real question. Yeah, getting an offer 4k lower on a car might be an insult to some people, but to others, it's just an offer.

When I sold my Lancer, I got less than I wanted. But I didn't attack anyone for lowballing me. It's not about market value. It's about supply and demand. If no one is willing to pay market value, then you either a) keep the item or b) sell it for what the market will bear.

 

People never want to pay market value. They want to pay what they feel something is worth, and everyone wants a deal on everything, all the time. I don't bother selling stuff on here for the most part because of that. I'd rather put something on Ebay with a link to it on EvoM. My personal preference (though I haven't sold anything in a while). At any rate, it's not necessarily a bad idea to make a rule to discourage it, but expecting it to be strongly enforced truly is a bit idealistic and unrealistic. At any rate...I think BSDJ basically mentioned everything else I would have said.

 

^ nothing sells for what it's worth.

 

I think that offering lower then the posted price or if you have a problem with someones price it should be handled VIA pm. If someone wants to offer me a lower price on a part I am selling I have no problem looking into it. Even though I try and make my prices fair and as low as I can and still pay the bills sometimes our prices and be higher sometimes they can be lower.

But when someone comes in a thread is like I bought this from Vendor X 2 years ago for this price it really has no relevance because prices change in time and just discourages people from buying.

 

You need to read the thread on low balling and its place in a free market.

 

Supply and demand is exactly what drives market value, but I am sure you knew that. I don't think, however, that there is any definite market value when it comes to selling cars. They sell all over the board, low and high. It also has a lot to do with the knowledge of the buyer and seller.

 

Totally agreed. But sometimes it can't be helped.

When I sold my Lancer, I listed it for a bit under the KBB/NADA/etc. value. And nothing happened for months. The car did not sell until I lowered the price. Unfortunate for me, but it's the way that the world works. People don't seem to get that.

Another analogy - Bridgestone Potenza RE-92 tires retail for something like $600 a set. They come stock on just about every Subaru except the STi. But they aren't really that good a tire, and they're everywhere (everyone upgrades, so there's lots of RE-92s laying around to be sold). Hence, for a set of tires that retail for $600 at TireRack, I wouldn't even consider paying more than $100.

I'm not saying that either example really compares well to selling an Evo, but people need to realize that just because a book says a car is worth $XX,XXX, it isn't necessarily worth that much to a potential buyer. (Actually, the first example in this post is an OK one... )