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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:16 AM
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Why are you trying to silence me?

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Points are permanent.
That's fine. Why have the others not received the points, including your colleague who broke the site rules he was supposed to enforce? Please have a look at my previous comments and ask the parties in question to answer on-point for a change.

Your questions have been answered
That's a blatant fabrication, given the replies at hand. Just because you say it, that doesn't mean it's true, as the record shows. This isn't my opinion; it's a fact, as the other threads blatantly illustrate. None of my questions have been answered. Worse, none of the folks involved in this even have the guts to confront the problem directly. I hate to say it, but by bringing-in a third party (ie. you) to act as an enforcer only makes the situation more suspect.

PM an Admin with your concerns if you are not satisfied.
This is a public problem, it effects us all and hiding behind PMs is hardly the answer. Tell me, why haven't anyone replied to my questions without obfuscating the issue? If I said something that wasn't true, it's easy enough to discredit me. Seeing how every attempt has been made to shut me up and to ignore my concerns, it's apparent that the situation is different.

Do not open another thread on this topic.
Sometimes a man has to stand up for what he believes in and this is one of those events. AFAIK, the administration of this forum has done nothing to handle this issue, especially given its scope. Supporting a cover-up is hardly my style.

I hate to disregard your request, as I do respect you, but this is a matter of integrity. I'm not willing to compromise mine for the sake of points/ban/etc. I have no problem with you and I'm sorry that you had to get involved, instead of those who are responsible.

Thank you for reading this.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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oh boy, you spoke up to the government???? before you get executed can you enter me into your will.

+1 for standing up for what you believe in
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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you're going about your issue all wrong. and you look like a tool in the process.


have a great day.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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You are this upset about a 5 point infraction that was also issued to other members participating the same action?

Sweet lord. Its the internet.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
oh boy, you spoke up to the government???? before you get executed can you enter me into your will.

+1 for standing up for what you believe in
standing up for what you believe in is one thing. stubbornly holding to what you believe in under massive contradicting evidence is something completely different.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FJF
That's fine. Why have the others not received the points, including your colleague who broke the site rules he was supposed to enforce? Please have a look at my previous comments and ask the parties in question to answer on-point for a change.

The moderator did not break site rules. He used words you don't like, but none of them threw the swear filter, did they?

That's a blatant fabrication, given the replies at hand. Just because you say it, that doesn't mean it's true, as the record shows. This isn't my opinion; it's a fact, as the other threads blatantly illustrate. None of my questions have been answered. Worse, none of the folks involved in this even have the guts to confront the problem directly. I hate to say it, but by bringing-in a third party (ie. you) to act as an enforcer only makes the situation more suspect.

He's a mod. Not a 3rd party.

This is a public problem, it effects us all and hiding behind PMs is hardly the answer. Tell me, why haven't anyone replied to my questions without obfuscating the issue? If I said something that wasn't true, it's easy enough to discredit me. Seeing how every attempt has been made to shut me up and to ignore my concerns, it's apparent that the situation is different.

We're not trying to shut you up. But you could try to stop breaking site rules on your witchhunt.

Sometimes a man has to stand up for what he believes in and this is one of those events. AFAIK, the administration of this forum has done nothing to handle this issue, especially given its scope. Supporting a cover-up is hardly my style.

No, we just haven't capitulated to your demands. Doing nothing looks different.

I hate to disregard your request, as I do respect you, but this is a matter of integrity. I'm not willing to compromise mine for the sake of points/ban/etc. I have no problem with you and I'm sorry that you had to get involved, instead of those who are responsible.

You have no integrity at this point. You continue to break the rules and ignore the requests of site staff.

Thank you for reading this.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg K
standing up for what you believe in is one thing. stubbornly holding to what you believe in under massive contradicting evidence is something completely different.


Hey man, im just following the rules on how to get my post count up dont listen to anything i say...

I think i did what everyone else did, post without reading the whole story first
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rez90
you're going about your issue all wrong.
Fair enough. What do you suggest? Do tell.

and you look like a tool in the process.
Was there any need for this? See how you feel when a higher power takes advantage of your good will and then disregards your concerns, making threats in the process.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FJF
Fair enough. What do you suggest? Do tell.

Was there any need for this? See how you feel when a higher power takes advantage of your good will and then disregards your concerns, making threats in the process.
Listen to us and accept that we won't blindly do anything you demand. The site owner has been answering you, and you haven't given a damn about what he says. If the Supreme Court doesn't find in your favor, you don't have an option to go "well, I'll keep fighting it!"

What in the world are you talking about? He called you a name that you don't like (but admittedly have earned through your diatribes and post-o-rama). Grow up, because you're not fighting him in this thread. You're fighting the moderators.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg K
standing up for what you believe in is one thing. stubbornly holding to what you believe in under massive contradicting evidence is something completely different.
Greg, what contradicting evidence? The text is there for all to see. Please point to the direct answers, as previously claimed.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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The contradicting evidence is that no one is on your side. Not other members, not moderators, not Supermoderators, not the site owner. You're fighting a war against the world.

Originally Posted by FJF
Please don't clutter this thread with gratuitous flames and needless noise. This has nothing to do with you. Let's leave the discussion to those who are actively involved - myself, WSB, and the admins. The other thread was closed due to pathetically lame interventions and there's no need to guide this one toward the same outcome.
Why did you say this in your last thread? If you want it to be a private matter with the "people involved", take it to PMs. Don't make thread after thread.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rez90
you're going about your issue all wrong. and you look like a tool in the process.


have a great day.
I agree
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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Listen to us and accept that we won't blindly do anything you demand. The site owner has been answering you, and you haven't given a damn about what he says.
Sorry, but that simply isn't true. I asked him a series of direct question, none of which received an on-point reply. Take a look at the other threads.

If the Supreme Court doesn't find in your favor, you don't have an option to go "well, I'll keep fighting it!"
The Supreme Court cannot make an individual stop saying the truth.

What in the world are you talking about?
Read the threads.

He called you a name that you don't like (but admittedly have earned through your diatribes and post-o-rama).
That is not the point of contention and I'd appreciate it if you at least take the time to comprehend the issue, which I have illustrated many times.

Grow up, because you're not fighting him in this thread. You're fighting the moderators.
I have no desire to fight anybody, especially with my hands tied behind by back. All I want are direct, truthful answers. I don't think that's a lot to ask.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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WSB gave a very clear response regarding his rationale for the infraction in one of the other posts in here. He even apologized for using a word to describe your actions that YOU deemed as inappropriate. I personally would have used childish rather than (********).

In general, I don't consider "flaming" telling someone "you're acting like a child" and basing that on previous posts.
Old Mar 2, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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Is it a full moon today?



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